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I'm headed through Portland, OR next week and was wondering if there is a place
to pick up "onesies and twosies" of parts for the qrp junk box, particularly
things like Amidon cores, etc?
tnx
Keith, ab5qe
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=>
=>I think I will build my Radio Shack DSP-40 into my next homebrew rig.
=>The DSP-40 comes with an audio amplifier, a speaker, volume control,
=>jacks, etc..  That's stuff a QRP rig needs anyway.  It also has the DSP.
=>That will make my QRP rig "high tech".  And the DSP-40 runs off 12 V.
=>All I have to do is get it out of the plastic case it's in and mount
=>it in the case of my QRP rig.  I'll probably build a shielded enclosure
=>around the DSP-40 out of PCB material so the digital stuff doesn't mess
=>up the RF.

Does anyone have a part number for this thing?  I asked a guy
at Radio Shack last night, and he knew nothing about it.  How
much is it?  Is it supposed to be available at the stores now?

73 DE KG0HW

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Name: Ron Mills
QTH:Houghton, MI (Upper Peninsula) Michigan Technological University
Call:N8ZBL (Soon to be changed)
Email:[e-mail]
QRP Rig:None Yet (Going to get MFJ 9140)
Hobbies:Camping,Hiking,Fishing,HAM Radio (obviously!)
Other:  If anybody has suggestions about a good, innexpesive QRP rig, please
let me know, I am a college student and funds are hard to come by.  Also if
you are HF active, give a call to W8YY, cw or voice, I might just respond.
W8YY is the club station for the Husky Amatuer Radio Club (HARC).


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All,

Having gotten into the "Nothing is really Junk" mode I tend to
look at my and other people's garbage in new ways. OK.. what am I
talking about? Well take for example my old small toaster oven. I
had kept it alive for years with rewiring and such. It finally
kicked the bucket for good. I took all the pieces apart and
couldn't quite bring myself to through some of them away. The top
case was real shiny heavy duty metal.. couldn't think of a purpose
in the universe for it.. threw it in my attic. When I decided to
get into mobile..my only extra rig was a Ten Tec Argonaut 509 and
I needed to put it into a small Acura Integra (same size as honda
Accord). I regularly carry passengers in the front seat so
couldn't give up the seat. After some consideration.. I finally
determined I could open the glove compartment and the top of the
toaster oven was the exact size to be fastened to the inside of
it and have it such that if I took the rig out there would be no
ugly marks. I brought the top into a shop at work and cut the
sides at an angle so that a person's legs would still fit. I
drilled 4 holes and the Argonaut was the perfect size to fit on
it. (should see the looks some of my passengers give me.)

Well the real reason I am writing this is that while passing
through the fix it shop center of here at our Computer Center I
noticed a small 232 switch box that was deffective.. I picked it
up and started to examine it.. it is really nice metal.. with a
two position switch.. the person in charge of buying them told me
they cost $4.95 NEW. Take the 232 connectors out of the box.. a
little paint over. you got one fine small QRP transceiver case..
sometimes at ham fests think you can pick them up for $1 or so.
This one was 6" X 2 1/4" X 5" form Computer Gate internationsl
[phone].. they had more sizes. I warned them never to
through any of these away.

73

Jeff, AC4HF

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=>I am investigating a vertical antenna design for 160m, due to
=>lot size restrictions.  Once I get an antenna "working", I'll
=>document the nn1g mods and include a working antenna design for
=>the space impaired.

I've used a small 160m antenna that works pretty well.  Wind
about 250 feet of insulated #14 wire onto a 1-inch diameter
wooden hand rail that is 16 feet long. (lumber yards have these)
Put a couple of coats of spar varnish on the hand rail first.
Attach the wire to an aluminum pie plate at the top of the antenna,
and put a 4-foot whip from a mobile antenna above that.  Give the
whole thing another coat of varnish.  You will need some sort
of matching network at the feed point at the bottom of the antenna;
I use an antenna tuner.  Mount the antenna vertically.  Install
as many buried radials as you can, and make them as long as possible.
This antenna is described in the ARRL Antenna Book as well as in
Doug DeMaw's Antenna Book.

Another option, if you have the room, is an inverted L.  This is
actually a vertical antenna with a top load.  The vertical
part of the antenna should be as long as possible.  Some hams actually
use a tower as the vertical part of the antenna.

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From [e-mail]  Wed Apr 13 23:25:46 1994
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Good Evening QRPers
I have just had a phone call from Ian, G3ROO, asking me if I can get him
another Super Keyer Kit when I am at Dayton.  We both bought the original
Idiom Press kits.  Are they still available - who sells them?
... and are there likely to be any at Dayton?
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From [e-mail]  Wed Apr 13 23:26:04 1994
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I am of the opinion that material should NOT be assumed to be publishable.

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Sounds good to me.

Ron, KU7Y



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I am of the opinion that everything sent to the net IS publishable, unless
the writer states otherwise. After all, there are at least 300 folks on
the net - what difference if a few hundred more read what we say? It just
might interest others in QRP (maybe even a few QRO's).

Also, when you state an opinion such as you have it would be nice if you
signed your name and callsign.

Jeff NH6IL

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I am of the opinion that material should NOT be assumed to be publishable.


From [e-mail]  Thu Apr 14 09:00:04 1994
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Hello,
Jeff Gold's ideas come as a relief.  I thought I was the only one who thought
that way.  I view every piece of "junk" as a possible candidate for an
enclosure.  Here's a challenge.  Find some of the Ethernet Baluns made for
10base2.  They have been seen at hamfests for about $2 - $3.  They would make
an excellant case for a mini transmitter, and they already have a BNC
connector installed!  Maybe you could key them with your key connected to the
RJ-45 jack.  Now maybe I'm the weird one.
72 de Cameron, KT3A.


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HI,

I will see if anyone here is interested before I post on Swap.

I have a brand new sealed in plastic copy of Electronics Workbench
for Windows. It is an incredible program used to Design and verify
Circuits. I have used it here at the university (this is a legitt
copy that I purchased for myself.. but the computer deal I was
working on fell thru.. doesn't do much good without a computer).

Analog mode includes:
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-complete control overa all component values
-ideal and real-world models for all active components
-resistors, capacitors, inductors, transformers, relays, dioddes,
-Zneer diodes, LEDs, BJTs, opamps, bulbs, fuses, JFETs and Mosets
-manual, time-delay, voltage-controlled, and current controlled
sources
-multimeter
-functions generator (1 Hz to 1Ghz)
-dual-trace scope
-Bode plotter
-SPICE simulation of transient and steady-state response


Digital mode includes:
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-fast simulation of ideal components
-AND, OR, XOR, NOT, NANAD  and NOR gates
-LED probes, half-adders, switches and seven-segment displays
-word genterator (16 eight-bit words)
-logic analyzer (converts among gates, truth table and Boolean
representations)


In magazines $299.00.. sell for $150.00 +shipping or trade for
really nice meter that has capacitance and inductance appropriate
for QRP building (and lots of other functions), or possibly for
some other ham related item.

73

Jeff, AC4HF


From [e-mail]  Thu Apr 14 12:52:13 1994
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Hi George:

> ..  We both bought the original Idiom Press kits.  Are they still
> available - who sells them?

I just purchased by *first* Super CMOS Keyer II from Idiom Press for my
OHR Spirit. What a great keyer!

They are still available. The USA cost was $49.00 which included
shipping. If you need their address or phone number, let me know; I can
check tonight.

72
Gene
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I saw one on display at my local Radio Schlock yesterday (4/13).  It sells
for $ 79.95 and is a nice looking little gadget (FWIW).  I am friends with
the mgr. there, and I told him I would be back next week, after my taxes were
in, to treat myself to a few goodies, with my usual "manager's discount for
preferred customers".  Well, I went to my accountant last night for our
annual ritual, and it turns out I owe a few thou to rotten NY state!
So much for my goodies.

My older son's 5th birthday is coming up in a few weeks.  We were thinking
about putting in one of those fancy wooden backyard swingset/gym/clubhouse
things.  Hmmm, do you think a 5 year old would rather have a DSP, new 2m
HT, and would share them with his Pop?

At least I'll get exercise putting up his new swingset!

73,
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Kalman Laudon WD6CZI in 2 land
QRP ARCI No. 8385
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Part number is 21-543. Each store is supposed to have one.

73

Jim, KR1S



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Hi folks,

Just a quick note to say thanks for all the words of wisdom
and the help offered during the QSO Party. Looking forward to
next year.

Had a good time on the air, and really enjoy this mailing list
group.

By the way, Cameron, have been unable to post email to your
mailing address. Contact me to verify your address. Strongly
considering your offer, need more details.

Take care,
73
John
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> > I am of the opinion that material should NOT be assumed to be publishable.
> I am of the opinion that everything sent to the net IS publishable, unless
> the writer states otherwise. After all, there are at least 300 folks on
> the net - what difference if a few hundred more read what we say? It just
> might interest others in QRP (maybe even a few QRO's).

Technically, anything someone rights is not republishable unless they give
explicit permission; and certainly as a matter of courtesy, a publisher
would be doing better to make sure he or she has explicit permission rather
than relying on even well-grounded implicit permission.

As to why someone might be willing to have the 300 people on [e-mail]
read something but not the 400 extra readers of QRPp: email tends to be thought
of as an evanescent phenomenon (even though many mailing lists are archived),
but a magazine is quite obviously reasonably permanent; one might say things
on a mailing list that one would rather not be reminded of 10 years from now
when someone leafs through their back issues of a magazine.  Also, many people
put less effort into composition of email than they would for a magazine
submission, even a relatively informal magazine like QRPp, and might at least
prefer the opportunity to correct speeling misteaks grammatical and errors.

Furthermore, if blanket permission is assumed for QRPp, what stops someone
else from gathering all the interesting comments from the mailing list,
removing the attributions, and publishing them in a book as supposedly
original work?  This issue has actually come up on USENET in several places,
causing several interesting and creative writers to stop posting their best
work.

That said, I wouldn't generally object to having anything I write on mailing
lists or USENET republished, but I do appreciate being asked.



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Doug Demaw polularized in the 80's usage of different items for cases.
I beleive that in his QRP notebook he says something to the effect that
every time he goes to the grocery store to buy food, he always looks at the
different cans for useage other than content.

To let my secret out of the bag, I hate that flavored coffee stuff, but my
wife loves it.  She complained that it costs too much, but I told her that
if she likes it she should buy it.... Well the little rectangular tin
cases with the vacuum seal plastic lid are great for all sorts
of things in the shack.  I use them for storing air variables so the fins
dont get bent, I use them for projects. I use them to store my xtals. I
have threatened to build an nn1g into one, I have about 30 of them now.

I think Doug Demaw's cases look pretty slick too.  He uses p.c. board to
make a u channel , then wraps metal grating around the u channel for the
top. This metal grating is available at all hardwares, I'm not sure of the
usage, but maybe for cabinet doors that need to have air circulation.

Cases can be one of the most intriguing part of any project that you make.
When I first started making my qrp equipment, I used double sided p.c.
board and soldered brass hinges on the tops of the rigs.  Then I hand painted
acrylic on the box, and then hand painted letters, and then polyurethaned the
entire thing.  Boy do they look ugly.  But I bet my bright green little
boxes stand out in a crowd with the lid flipped up and my callsign exposed.
Some examples of this are in the WB8YGG.gif on think.com.

One of my latest rigs was built into an electrical utility box that both the
front and back are removable. I built a 20 meter nn1g rig that was entirely
mounted on the front steel panel.  When you  unscrew the front panel, you can
pull the entire rig out of the box. That was a challenge to my mechanical
ability.

I think that one thing that I have learned with these building experiences is
that whatever you use, you can make things look nice if you try hard enough.
I simply do not take as much time as others with the case, but some of my stuff
looks pretty good despite myself.

73 Brad WB8YGG

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On Wed, 13 Apr 1994 [e-mail] wrote:
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> I am of the opinion that material should NOT be assumed to be publishable.
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I agree. But there's no reason why individual authors can't give blanket
permission to publish to anyone who asks. I'd prefer the chance to at
least review what I wrote before it is published.
Pete
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On Thu, 14 Apr 1994 C=[e-mail] wrote:

> Hello,
> Jeff Gold's ideas come as a relief.  I thought I was the only one who thought
> that way.  I view every piece of "junk" as a possible candidate for an
> enclosure.  Here's a challenge.  Find some of the Ethernet Baluns made for

Jeff also said that he couldn't bring himself to throwing out a potentially
useful piece of "junk".  If you like to use stuff that people might
throw out as junk, you might check out the treatise _The Art & Science
of Dumpster Diving_.  Lots of details, techniques, examples, & philosophy.

:-)  :-)  :-)

I shouldn't :-) to much, since as I type this I am listening to a fine
stereo & speakers which came out of a dumpster.  If I ever dive again
I'll keep my eyes open for QRP rig cases.  :-)

73
Drew kb9fko
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This is a common subject; we went through it last year, and every once in a
while someone asks me privately what the policy on republishing material
is.

You should get permission of the individuals who originally wrote the
material to republish it in another forum.  I cannot and will not give
permission on behalf of other contributors.  Even though people give
"blanket permission" to republish things, every once in a while we send out
something which we didn't really mean (e.g., a flame), or which contained
mistakes which were later pointed out to us.  Going to the source of an
article for permission shouldn't be hard to do, and it gives the author a
chance to ammend or revise the article if he/she so deems.

Just send the author email about what you intend to do.  I'm sure most of
us would be flattered that others would be interested in what we write.

--bruce WT1M


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If anyone wishes to republish my message about republishing messages,

> Technically, anything someone rights is not republishable unless they give
                                  ^
please correct this typo first :-).  (ouch!)

> prefer the opportunity to correct speeling misteaks grammatical and errors.

(But not these, they were deliberate.)

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RE:anything someone rights is not republishable unless they give
explicit permission.

Cancel freedom of the press!  Nothing is protected unless specifically
copywrited which involves sending a copy to the Library of Congress and
paying the bucks for them to register it.  You must be dreaming that there
anything protected about a posting on Internet.  This stuff can be forwarded
all over the world with the flick of a finger.  Does anyone think they could
sue someone for copying a posting on Internet and putting it in a
publication?  I must be living in a different world.

73, alan N2ALE

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I believe there was a thread on this subject last year.  Seems someone gave
an opinion and was quoted and it got back to them via their work... Kinda
like they were speaking as a representative of their company versus a
personal opinion.  I guess that's why some people have "sig" files
that say their opinions are their own.  I think you shuld get their
permission before you publish what someone says.  What they said may
have been stated looking at a limited audience (ie [e-mail]), not the
world.

Mike Dooley KE4PC
[e-mail]
... just my opinion, folks, I don't speak for the company. ;-)

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So I'm not getting any Digest, just the TofC.

Is this happening to everyone.?

Grover
WT6P



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From: howie cahn <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [[e-mail]: your note to internet]
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On Thu, 14 Apr 1994, John F. Woods wrote:


    [stuff deleted]
>
> As to why someone might be willing to have the 300 people on [e-mail]
> read something but not the 400 extra readers of QRPp: email tends to be thought
> of as an evanescent phenomenon (even though many mailing lists are archived),
> but a magazine is quite obviously reasonably permanent; one might say things
> on a mailing list that one would rather not be reminded of 10 years from now
> when someone leafs through their back issues of a magazine.
>

If ten years from now the most I have to be embarrassed about is what I
said about QRP operating now, I'll be doing pretty good. This isn't one
of the personals or sex groups.

> Furthermore, if blanket permission is assumed for QRPp, what stops someone
> else from gathering all the interesting comments from the mailing list,
> removing the attributions, and publishing them in a book as supposedly
> original work?

This is true whether or not permission is granted. Even if there's no
implicit authorization, someone can do that. It's plagiarism either way and
it's been a problem since at least Guttenburg.

Actually, I don't don't really have strong feelings what the policy is. I
just suggested that the default should be "permission = ON" instead
of "permission = OFF" because I didn't think that most people would object
and I wanted to make things easy for people like Doug. If I was wrong in
this assumption, I withdraw the suggestion.

72/73... howie
[e-mail]

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From: Jeffrey Herman <[e-mail]>
To: Andrew Arnett <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: QRP Cases & junk scrounging
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Hey! I thought *I* invented ``dumpster diving''! My two favorite spots
to dumpster dive are here on campus (especially behind the engineering
department building and the CS department - I've got a lifetime supply
of 2N2222 x-sistors, resistors, capacitors thanks to CS), and in the
harbor (Ala Wai Yacht Harbor): TV sets, radios of all types including
a marine band VHF transceiver, telephones (just found a nice cordless
one - the following weekend I found a touchtone phone); just this last
weekend I found an RDF (radio direction finding receiver).

You folks who live near a harbor: GET GOING! Yacht owners throw out
the greatest electronic goodies.

I guess the QRP philosophy goes hand-in-hand with dumpster diving...

73,
Jeff NH6IL


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From: Jeffrey Herman <[e-mail]>
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No no no! You can copyright everything and anything you want without
notifying the Library of Congress. We have been made very aware of this
here at my university. All you have to do is affix the following:

Copyright C 1994 by Jeffrey Herman
All rights reserved

That's is. I just copyrighted this article. No further action is necessary.
But, it helps in enforcing the legality of your copyright if do notify
the L. of C., although your material is protected by law just as well
if you don't.

Oh, the C is supposed to have a circle around it.

73,
Jeff NH6IL

From [e-mail]  Fri Apr 15 02:51:09 1994
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Does anyone know what happened to Chuck ?? I have not seen a post from him
since the middle of the QSO party, and he is usually god for two or three a
day.  Was the contest too much for him, or did he drink too much diet coke at
the party he went to Saturday nite??

Chuck - if you're around - hope all is ok!

73/72 - Bill - N8ET

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Look, guys, copyright law has changed a lot.  At various times it has
been required, and then not required, to send two copies to the Patent
Office, which copies were forwarded to the Library of Congress.  Now
that the U.S. has signed the Berne Convention, there is probably an
implicit copyright on anything you write, but there might not be.
The Convention also altered the length of time copyrights are active in
the U.S.

If you care about whether something you write is copyrighted or not,
PLEASE don't believe anything you read on the net (including me).  Get
a recent book on the subject from the library or talk to a lawyer.

If you care whether something someone else wrote is copyrighted, it is
always safe to ask them.  If you want to know if you can publish it,
again, it would be safe to ask them.  The worst they can do is say "no".

Even if something is copyrighted, "fair use" may permit you to quote
portions without permission.  However, it's a nice courtesy to ask the
person for permission anyway.  I've been quoted both with and without
permission, and I must say it's nice to be able to double-check my words
before they are republished.  It may not be mandatory for the editor to
do this, but I think it's a very nice courtesy.

Now, back to the QRP stuff with a total beginner's question:

I'm trying to get into homebrew QRP.  I have an electronics background
but little ham radio experience.  I live in an apartment which means
limited antenna possibilities.  An antenna for 80m, for example, would
be difficult.  What's a reasonable band to try?  40m or 20m seem reasonable.
Is 40m likely to get too noisy for QRP this summer?

I guess what I'm asking is this: Is there any band that a beginning homebrew
indoor-antenna QRPer should definitely _avoid_ for summer operating?  :-)

          Stephen
          KB8PWA/AA


--
Stephen Trier
[e-mail]
KB8PWA


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    >>Nothing is protected unless specifically copywrited which involves
    >>sending a copy to the Library of Congress and paying the bucks for
    >>them to register it.

    Huh????

    I've done a fair amount of free-lance writing.  What I write is mine
    unless I give you explicit, written, permission to use it.  All I have
    to do is prove that *I* wrote it and *when* it was written.  That can
    be done in a number of ways, but anything that provides a date stamp
    (like E-MAIL) should be sufficient.  Putting the little c helps, but is
    actually not required.

    Chet, AA1EX

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> I had to re-enter them after the contest because the computer lost them.
                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Please, let's be serious a moment. You didn't test your LogicIII setup
>>properly before the contest.

No, It was tested. I just missed a test case scenario which is
 quite common in all types of manufacture we as humans do.  I found
a bug in the scoring of the contest report, not the logging of the
contest numbers.  When I fixed  the report I mistakenly thought the data
would not be touched.   It was.   My mistake was not making a backup
before making changes.  If I had make a backup, I would have
restored the lost data.  That was the lesson I learned.

>>Anyway, who's got the time to do both in a >>contest like the party
last weekend? :-)

I work, by copying on paper the exchange, and then typing it into
the computer after I press my "Super CMOS II" keyer button which
has the pre-programmed part of my exchange.

>>Why have the computer?

Because it catches dups a lot faster then I would;  makes
contest reporting and qsl'ing much easier.   I enjoy contesting,
(OK I'll admit it,  computers too) and receiving qsl cards, not filling
them out & contest paper work.  But that's me, and that's what makes
this a great hobby, it's really a lot of hobbies, rolled up under one.

73s
andrew
KF2JH

and yes we'll get each other on the next one.

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Can anyone tell me what is the inductance of a T-50-2 toroid with 14
turns of  #26 enamel wire???

        Tnx 73's Evert WA5OJI

From [e-mail]  Fri Apr 15 14:04:48 1994
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 09:51:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: "JEFF M. GOLD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: special events
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All,

Looks like the QRP Special Events/expedition is going to start
with quite an adventure. I have one car packed already.. and I
mean completely packed trunk and back seat... lots of stuff...
thought qrp was small and light HI HI

well we are having severe weather here.. electricity just went
off.. should be fun getting the antennas up in lightning storm..
leaving to set up in about 2 hours...hope to test the station late
afternoon .. early pm.

look for us

72

Jeff, AC4HF

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> Nothing is protected unless specifically
> copywrited which involves sending a copy to the Library of Congress and
> paying the bucks for them to register it.

I know this is off topic, but:  the above statement is false in any country
which is a signatory to the Berne convention.  The US signed the Berne
convention in the mid 80's.  Everything you write is copyright (that's
"right", as in "right to copy", not "write" as scribbling).  Registration
is only necessary to obtain statutory damages (as opposed to actual damages)
in a lawsuit.

> You must be dreaming that there
> anything protected about a posting on Internet.  This stuff can be forwarded
> all over the world with the flick of a finger.

This is true, to the same extent that when you leave work tonight, someone
could cave your head in with a lead pipe in the parking lot and steal your
car.  From this, we cannot conclude that this is either legal or proper.

>   Does anyone think they could
> sue someone for copying a posting on Internet and putting it in a
> publication?

It certainly wouldn't be an open and shut case, due to the uncontrolled extent
of copying necessarily authorized by the nature of netnews, but there's no
reason obvious to legal scholars to believe that it would be impossible to
do so.

>  I must be living in a different world.

You are living in a world where people have so little regard for others that
they gladly take the fruits of others' labors without regards to their desires.
Unfortunately, that's not a different world from the one inhabited by "us",
but that doesn't mean we have to like it or behave that way.

John, WB7EEL

From [e-mail]  Fri Apr 15 14:28:24 1994
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From: [e-mail] ( Jim Osburn          )
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I have been known to use plastic index card boxes and plastic pencil boxes
as QRP enclosures.  The plastic pencil boxes can come in some unusual colors,
such as orange and purple, but I prefer the black ones.  Many times there
is a picture of Mickey stuck to the top, but he peels off easily.  I will
build an ugly circuit on a piece of PCB, then glue the PCB into the pencil
box.  Before I glue in the PCB, I of course punch some holes in the box
for switches, knobs, connectors, etc..  It's a lot easier to punch holes
in plastic than it is metal.  Sometimes all it takes is the skillfull
use of a razor knife.

The plastic index card boxes are good enclosures too.  If you lay the
index card box on it's side, you can use the top as a front panel with
a natural slope.  I built a field strength meter in one that way.
Some people didn't recognize the enclosure as an index card box until
I told them.  I prefer the brown colored boxes but white, gray, yellow
and green are also available.

The pencil boxes make good battery pack boxes too.

All of these boxes open very easily for service, adjustment or battery changing.

Index card boxes used to be metal, but I haven't seen any of those in years.
I once considered a metal recipe box I saw in the store, but it was too
expensive.

All of these things go on sale from time to time.  That's when you can
stock up for reasonable prices.

73,

Jim, WD9EYB

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Subject: Re: publishable
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>
>
> Look, guys, copyright law has changed a lot.  At various times it has
> been required, and then not required, to send two copies to the Patent
> Office, which copies were forwarded to the Library of Congress.  Now
> that the U.S. has signed the Berne Convention, there is probably an
> implicit copyright on anything you write, but there might not be.
> The Convention also altered the length of time copyrights are active in
> the U.S.

    Last summer, I wrote for the copyright paperwork for some
stuff I was writing.  As *I* understood what the stuff was saying
(disclaimer - I do not *claim* to be a copyright law expert), you
are covered if you do the:

Copyright C(in a circle) 1994 Duane P. Mantick
all rights reserved

....or something like that.  BUT - you will be MORE covered if you
DO send in the paperwork, fees and copies.

If I could find all that crap I'd post some of the material back
here to the group, but quite honestly, I don't know where it all
is right now......duh.
>
> If you care about whether something you write is copyrighted or not,
> PLEASE don't believe anything you read on the net (including me).  Get
> a recent book on the subject from the library or talk to a lawyer.

    This seems like sound advice.
>
>
> Even if something is copyrighted, "fair use" may permit you to quote
> portions without permission.  However, it's a nice courtesy to ask the
> person for permission anyway.  I've been quoted both with and without

    Not only is it a nice courtesy, it could also keep your cookies
out of the fire later.


Duane

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On Thu, 14 Apr 1994, Jeffrey Herman wrote:

> No no no! You can copyright everything and anything you want without
> notifying the Library of Congress.
Exactly right - providing you wrote the original :-)

> That's i[t]. I just copyrighted this article. No further action is
> necessary.
> But, it helps in enforcing the legality of your copyright if do notify
> the L. of C., although your material is protected by law just as well
> if you don't.
This means you don't need to notify L. of C. - which is just as well
because I fail to see how I, as a Canadian, should have to notify L. of
C. of anything just to be able to enforce a copyright.

Pete
[e-mail]
(The above missive contains my own off-the-top-of-my-head uncopyrighted
opinion. Do not fold, spindle or mutilate. Removal of this disclaimer
before reading can result in severe penalties)

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Gentlemen and Ladies: I like to think of these newsgroups as a
friendly place to get away from the ratrace of amateur radio in
which I work. When I go to the local gin mill, I don't expect to
see anything I say show up in the Newington Town Crier next week.
I don't expect to see anything I say here show up in any QRP
newsletters or any other media, either, unless you have asked for
and received my permission. It's happened once and I went away
for a while. If it happens again I'm going away for good. I don't
need the trouble. If you are the editor of a newsletter and you
can't give me the courtesy of asking first, you need to learn a
little about the writing game. And please don't cloak any
responses in the First Amendment.

I really don't care to discuss this, either privately or on
the mailing lists. It doesn't belong on the mailing lists anyway.

Note: My actions here are not taken on account of any policy,
written or otherwise, formulated by my employer. They are my own,
just like my words. If you have the opportunity to see material
written on Internet, you obviously have the opportunity to
request permission via the same route. I don't care what anyone
else does or thinks. If I see anything of mine in a newsletter
and prior permission wasn't granted, I'm outta here.

73

Jim Kearman, KR1S
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    Well, you've heard some "teasers" about the planned QRP-NE contest.
    Jim, W1FMR, will be doing an official announcement at Dayton and he'll
    also have copies of the rules and entry forms.  Once he gets back from
    Dayton, we will publish the rules and entry form here as well.
    However, I thought you would all be interested, so here's a little more
    information to whet your appetite.

    The event will be called QRP AFIELD-1994.  It is sponsored by the QRP
    Club of New England and is designed to encourage QRP enthusiasts to
    field-test their radio equipment using temporary antennas and
    non-commercial power sources.

    Mark your calendars for Saturday, September 17, 1994.  The contest is
    short--only six hours from 1600Z to 2200Z--but it should be fun and
    propogation is *guaranteed* to be good on all the bands.  So start
    scouting out your favorite "field" location now.  For example, you'll
    find me on the top of the 2200 foot mountain behind my house :-)

    Chet, AA1EX

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> Can anyone tell me what is the inductance of a T-50-2 toroid with 14
> turns of  #26 enamel wire???

My office used to contain two or three copies of Amidon's extremely helpful
toroid literature, but I can't find any of them.  (Hint to everyone:  you
want their toroid literature :-).

But I do have a '92 Handbook, which asserts that for T-50-2, A-sub-L is
49 uH per 100 turns (page 2-34); the general inductance formula for toroids is

    turns = 100 SQRT( L / A-sub-L )

(L is the desired inductance in microhenries).

Of course, you know the turns and need to solve for L, so it's

    L = t^2 A(L) / 10000

or .94uH.

73, John, WB7EEL

From [e-mail]  Fri Apr 15 19:44:34 1994
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Cancel freedom of the press!  Nothing is protected unless...

Well, there is NO agreement from anyone on my comments.  The running
opinion is that I am flat out wrong - incorrect - misguided - etc.
If you agree with my comment, please be advised that no one else does.
This is a public service message, and not copyrighted.

73, alan N2ALE

From [e-mail]  Fri Apr 15 19:53:38 1994
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If anybody on the list thinks what I write is worth publishing, you are
hereby free to do so. If you can actually make money with what I'm giving
away for free, more power to you.

Proper credit is always nice, as is a note letting me know what magazine or
newsletter to look in.

73 from Burnaby,
laura VE7LDH

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>
> Gentlemen and Ladies: I like to think of these newsgroups as a
> friendly place to get away from the ratrace of amateur radio in
> which I work. When I go to the local gin mill, I don't expect to
> see anything I say show up in the Newington Town Crier next week....
> I don't expect to see anything I say here show up in any QRP
> newsletters or any other media, either, unless you have asked for
> and received my permission. It's happened once and I went away
> for a while. If it happens again I'm going away for good. I don't
> need the trouble. If you are the editor of a newsletter and you
> can't give me the courtesy of asking first, you need to learn a
> little about the writing game. And please don't cloak any
> responses in the First Amendment.....
>.......stuff deleted....
> ...... If I see anything of mine in a newsletter
> and prior permission wasn't granted, I'm outta here.
>
> 73
>
> Jim Kearman, KR1S
> [e-mail]

I'm going to "publish" the above "open letter / threat" on a poster
board at my RARS-fest table this Sunday and solict comment...

Good-bye, Jim.  :^)

73,

Steve Modena   [e-mail]

P.S.
Are postings to the boatanchor list and the qrp list copyrighted
materials...or strictly confidential, non-disclosure utterances?


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The inductance of a T-50-2 toroid with 14 turns of #26
enamel wire is 0.96 microhenries.

dit dit

Chuck Adams  K5FO  CP-60
[e-mail]




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I do know English.  Excuse the spelling and use of the even
wrong words.  I know better.  It must be jet lag.  :-)

copyright 1994  :-)

Chuck Adams  K5FO  CP-60
[e-mail]




From [e-mail]  Fri Apr 15 22:08:51 1994
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Gang,
Here is the index for the April issue of QRP-NE  Newsletter "72"

Meeting Minutes - W1FMR
QRP-NE Homebrew Project - 40/40 Superhet rig - NN1G
A Lesson in Kit Building Part 1 - KA0IQT
In A Word - K1LGQ
News From All Over - NT1R
Internet Anyone ? - AA1EX
Ten Parts or Less - NH6IL
Radiokit Review - W1AAZ
The QRP Plus Review - KF2JH
North West QRP Contest
QRP-NE Membership List
40/40 Kit purchasers list - W1CFI
Charts & Graphs - K1LGQ

I just saw the draft of the final copy and realize that not all
permissions have been requested from Inet members.

Please excuse my late requests......
I will make them to the individuals concerned and keep my
fingers crossed.....

72    Jim  W1FMR


Leave Sept. 17 open for the first ever, QRP Field Day type contest.
Chet, AA1EX is spearheading this very exciting event and an
announcement will be made before Dayton.
Details also to appear in June issue of QRP-NE "72".


h

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Gang,
   I just received notice from someone in Scottsdale Arizona that
someone else is using my callsign and sending `obscene CW messages'
on 40M. Have any of you copied any such transmissions? The date
and time was 0200 12 April. Please help me in this matter.

73,
Jeff NH6IL

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Evert, WA5OJI, asked the inductance of 14 turns on a T-50-2
core. Looks like about 1.2 microhenries to me.

The ARRL Databook contains tables that will help you calculate
turns-vs-inductance.

72

Jim, KR1S



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The Radio Shack DSP Filter is brand new and not in the 1994
catalog.

73

Jim



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I know we would all like to solve the problems of the world,
but could we do it somewhere else?  I read this group for
elecrtronic and radio information.  Take the other discussions
elsewhere please.

Now -----  I had a chance to see a MFJ-9040 recently and I was
VERY impressed.  I am considering buying one at Dayton.

Lets herar your comments pro and con about this rig --
seems like the best rig for the money out there to me.  Am
I right or wrong?


--
Keith M. Hamilton      73 de NO8Z
[e-mail]
Youngstown, Ohio

From [e-mail]  Sat Apr 16 14:07:06 1994
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   I am interested in building a trap dipole for 10,15,20m. my question
is this--> How do I make the first trap resonate for both 15 & 20m??
I understand how to make a 2 band dipole with traps, but the third band
confuses me. Also, what type of capacitator should I use? I've heard of
transmitting caps, but do I need them for QRP work?
   Thanks for the help...
73-->
Justin AA9KM

From [e-mail]  Sat Apr 16 14:37:29 1994
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Jim wrote:
>>
>> Gentlemen and Ladies: I like to think of these newsgroups as a
>> friendly place to get away from the ratrace of amateur radio in
>> which I work. When I go to the local gin mill, I don't expect to
>> see anything I say show up in the Newington Town Crier next week....
>> I don't expect to see anything I say here show up in any QRP
>> newsletters or any other media, either, unless you have asked for
>> and received my permission. It's happened once and I went away
>> for a while. If it happens again I'm going away for good. I don't
>> need the trouble. If you are the editor of a newsletter and you
>> can't give me the courtesy of asking first, you need to learn a
>> little about the writing game. And please don't cloak any
>> responses in the First Amendment.....
>>.......stuff deleted....
>> ...... If I see anything of mine in a newsletter
>> and prior permission wasn't granted, I'm outta here.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Jim Kearman, KR1S
>> [e-mail]

Steve responded:

>I'm going to "publish" the above "open letter / threat" on a poster
>board at my RARS-fest table this Sunday and solict comment...
>
>Good-bye, Jim.  :^)
>
>73,
>
>Steve Modena   [e-mail]
>
>P.S.
>Are postings to the boatanchor list and the qrp list copyrighted
>materials...or strictly confidential, non-disclosure utterances?

I now respond:

1. As Steve may not have noticed, Jim works for ARRL. What he says may be
mistaken for official positions of the organization. For this reason, his
employers have expressed concern in the past about his participation in public
forums like this. Widespread dissemination of his informal comments, if those
comments were misunderstood, might have very serious consequences for Jim.
    I, for one, value Jim's contributions to this group and intend to
continue to treat Jim's contributions as I would those of any friend I was
having an informal chat with: Not secret, but not intended, either, for
publication on the front page.
    I happen to know about Jim's situation, but I do not know the situation
of most other contributors to this list. Therefore, as a matter of common
courtesy, I plan to continue to treat everyone's postings as I do Jim's.

2. We should have learned from the discussion thus far that the copyright laws
are complex, and one cannot be sure whether postings to these lists are
copyrighted or not. It does not seem to me, however, that that is the issue. I
would have thought the issue was a simple one: Would you print a letter a
friend wrote you in the newspaper without first getting that friend's
permission? If you would not, then I can't imagine how you could bring yourself
to do the equivalent with a posting to one of these newsgroups.

3. I hope that if Steve intends to display Jim's note, he will also display
with it this one. More formally, I herewith give my permission for MY
contribution to this posting (that NOT marhed with ">'s") to be reproduced
anywhere, in any form, so long as it remains unchanged.

73,
Jim
K5YUT

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Copyright c 1994 by Jeffrey Herman
All rights reserved!

Gang:
   For some odd reason Radio Shack is discontinuing carrying its mica
trimmer caps - the close out price is $1.47. I just bought 6 for future
projects. Stock number is 272-1336. 95-420 pf.

Jeff NH6IL

From [e-mail]  Sun Apr 17 03:24:04 1994
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     The NorCal QRP Club is offering a partial NorCal 40 kit.  There were
so many requests for NC-40s that we could not fill due to the fact that
they were sold out that we have decided to offer partial kits of the hard to
get parts and let the builders chase their own parts.  NorCal is selling the
partial kits which include: pcboard, custom case, standoffs, special screws,
MV108 Varactor diode, and the Manual.  These are the difficult parts to
obtain, and the rest of the parts are available through sources listed in the
manual.  The cost is $25 and includes shipping and handling for domestic
orders.  Foreign orders are asked to send $30.  California residents must
add $1.94 for sales tax.  To order, send your check to:
        Jim Cates, WA6GER
        3241 Eastwood Rd.
        Sacramento, CA 95821

     The boards were ordered Friday from Far Circuits, and as soon as Jim
gets delivery, he will start shipping orders.
     Why aren't we doing full kits?  Because we are gearing up for the
Sierra, our all band kit that will be introduced at Dayton.  The brochures
go to the printers this week, and will be mailed out "first class mail" as
soon as I get them back.  Remember, the Sierra will only be sold to NorCal
members.  All members (over 450) will receive the brochure.
     The June issue of QRPp will be 80 pages.  A table of contents will be
posted soon.
        72, Doug, KI6DS


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From: "Judy l. Schnabolk" <[e-mail]>
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20 Watt output, low distortion (class AB1) 1.6 to 30Mhz
linear (SSB/CW) power amplifier kit from Motorola
application note AN-779.

The amplifier provides 28dB (+/- 1 dB) of broad band
power gain (28 dB is a 630X amplification factor). Full
20W ouput will require 30-40 milliwatts of drive. The
basic design uses push pull driver (MRF476 type) and
ouput stages (type MRF475 type) and has 50 ohm
input / output..

Typical applications might be:

1. Power amp for popular QRP rigs. For example,
increasing a 1W radio to 20W will increase your signal
by 13dB (little over 2 S units).

2. Add to low power exciter such as the T1 SSB/CW
design published in QST by Rick Campbell.

The kit includes all new, high quality parts and a
double sided PCB as shown in the application note.
The price is $95 as a kit or I will assemble and test
the board for $135.

You provide enclose, 12V power and low pass band
filters.

I can also provide the following:

12 volt T/R relay for $5, 5 element filter(s) for any
band(s) of interest (includes 3 SM capacitors, 2 toroids
magnetic wire, design info, ceramic stand-offs for point
to point construction) at $5 per band, and a multipole
6+ position ceramic band swithch for $7.

This is not a commercial offering and only one kit is
available.

Replys should be sent to the above email account or
[e-mail]

de, Ed W1AAZ


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Gang,

After Jim's first letter some months ago I was sympathetic to him; it's
no fun to get in trouble at work over something not strictly work-
related.  But I detected a different tone in this letter, one that
indicates Jim is not comfortable with the Internet medium.

The newsgroups and I would say e-mail lists as well are in the public
domain.  Because of this, none of us have any control over what someone
does with our postings.  The other day a friend of mine was showing me a
CD-ROM he had bought which had archived postings from the Internet groups.
I found some of my own postings on the disk.  So it seems someone is
profiting from what I wrote, and people outside the Internet community
have access to my postings.

The key is to avoid writing anything you would not want repeated.  I
think this is fundamentally why we don't see public figures posting
to the forums:  anything they say becomes as public as if they had
said it at a press conference.  If you as an individual or business are
not comfortable with this prospect, then perhaps this medium is not for
you.

Jim, thank you for your many informative posts I have read over the
past few years.  You will be missed.

73,
Kevin KN6FQ

From [e-mail]  Sun Apr 17 16:55:42 1994
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Hi Gang,
I am surprised at the conflab abt copyright.
Surely it is a matter of courtesy to request
the permission of an author to reproduce his
work. No matter the law or where it appears?
I cannot see any difference between a "comment"
appearing here, in World Radio, QST etc or any
other medium, I must state an interest as I
write a monthly QRP column for a British Magazine.
I therefor sympathise with Jim.....
TTFN
--
Dick G0BPS / G0ROO      A member of the DRAGON SLAYERS QRP Group
Kanga Products         (Remember that sometimes the Dragon wins)

[  The opinions expressed here are always that of the management, ]
[  I am the management!!           (especially when she lets me)  ]

From [e-mail]  Sun Apr 17 17:45:35 1994
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Hello to all.  Decided to check out the RS DSP-40 digital signal processor.
Picked it up on Friday night, and have been trying to check it out this
weekend, despite the ROTTEN CONDX.  For those who are interested in more
details, the DSP-40 includes a built-in speaker and 5 watt audio amplifier.
Three modes are provided, NOISE REDUCTION, SSB, and CW.  Each mode has three
bandwidths, WIDE, MEDIUM, and NARROW.  Advertised filter widths are:

NR WIDE          200-2950
NR MED           200-2500
NR NARROW        200-2000

SSB WIDE         300-3000
SSB MED          500-2600
SSB NARROW       800-2000

CW WIDE          270-1230
CW MED           470-1030
CW NARROW        600-900

NR and SSB modes feature automatic notch feature.

Tried the DSP with my TT Argosy, but did not see a lot of benefit, but then
the Argosy has a crystal CW filter, and a HB op-amp SSB filter.  The unit
seems to work very well with my Kenwood R-1000, which defenitely needs help
on SSB and CW.  Immediate application is using the DSP + R-1000 on 160 meters,
along with my HB 1.5 watt transmitter.  Worked a fellow in SLC Saturday nite,
he was weak, and there was a strong stations a couple of kHz below -- could not
have made it w/o the DSP.  Perhaps the next project will be a VXO TX for
17 meters to use with the R-1000...

Part number is 21-543, and price is $80.  Others on the list have indicated
that each store is supposed to have received one unit.

73, Bill, KR8L/7

From [e-mail]  Mon Apr 18 03:39:37 1994
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The June QRPp is finished and here is a list of the table of contents.
Table of Contents - QRPp June 94

From The Editor, KI6DS                                   3
Deluxe QRP Station, W6QIF                                5
What Test Equipment Do You Need for QRP?, WA6ERB        29
Learning to Design Your Own, KF6VB                      30
Low Tech Bells for the NorCal 40, WA6GER                30
Measuring NorCal 40 Output, KI6DS                       31
How I Worked DX with the NorCal 40, W1FMR               32
QRP QSO, KB7ZNE                                         33
Confessions of an Appliance Operator, K6AGN             34
Our NorCal 40 Story, KF8XC                              36
Optional Frequency Counter for the NorCal 40, W6QIF     37
Increasing the Output Power of the NorCal 40, KN6VO     42
Making Laminated Panel Overlays, AB6SO                  45
QRP Antenna Farm, AA2U                                  46
General License + NorCal 40 + Hamstick = Hot!, KB7TCY   47
The Zuni Looper M.E.F., A Brief History, N6GA           48
NorCal Meeting Notes for Feb., Mar., & Apr., KI6DS      49
HF Propagation Forecasting, AB6SO                       53
NorCal 40 Case Mod, KI6DS                               56
NorCal 40 Notes, WW7Y                                   56
QRP + Bicycle Touring = Fun, KD6JUI                     57
A Crystal Filter Design Program Plus Results, N9JZW     58
The MFJ 20 Meter SSB Travel Radio: A Review, AC4HF      62
Spring ARCI QSO Party Results, Various Authors          63
NorCal Partial Kits Available, WA6GER                   69
An RF Amp for the NorCal 40, KM6QP                      70
The ARCI Spring QSO Party at N8ET, N8ET                 71
TidBits, KA7ULD,                                        72
Extended RIT/XIT for the NorCal 40, WA6HHQ              74
LED S-Meter for the NorCal 40, WA6HHQ                   76
Total pages this time is 80 counting the front and back cover.  The lead
article is the QRP Deluxe Station by W6QIF.  This is reprinted WITH permission
from the Winter edition of Communications Quarterly, Terry Littlefield, editor,
and the author, Jim Pepper, W6QIF.  It is the policy of QRPp that no article
will be printed without the expressed permission from the author.
See you at Dayton.  I will have a preview copy at the Hospitality room of ARCI,
but the rest will have to wait til they get back from the printers after
Dayton.
72, Doug
KI6DS

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> The brochures
> go to the printers this week, and will be mailed out "first class mail" as
> soon as I get them back.

I will pitch a tent next to my mailbox.

> Remember, the Sierra will only be sold to NorCal
> members.  All members (over 450) will receive the brochure.

This, then, is a commemorative kit for senior members of the
Quarter Millenium Wireless Association?

73, John, WB7EEL

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Did anybody get to work them?

I tried on both Saturday and Sunday during the scheduled 10-meter times
and the band was just useless.  I heard not one signal of anykind,
anywhere......

I noted that some rather sever weather had blown through that area during
previous days and hoped that the event was not cancelled....

Duane
wb9omc

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The Sullivan (IL) hamfest yesterday marks the official start of the
hamfest season.

The only HF qrp rig I saw which did not cover 27 MHz was an HW-7 with a
clean case.  I don't think it sold.

I picked up a Swan SWR-1A vswr meter.  It's dimensions are 2.5x3x5 inches
which is much smaller than the one I built.  Perfect for portable work.

Good luck & happy hamfesting,
Drew kb9fko
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Hello All,

At the risk of being a "me too" message, I'd like to add my 2 cents. About the
only activity I heard on 20m was the W0SHQ special event station. I heard him
with his beam and all, but couldn't work him even running QRO into an R5. I
heard some activity around 14.250-265, but it was in the noise. Conditions
were *really* poor. I understand there was an aurora this weekend, but don't
know exactly when it occurred. I was disappointed no one heard my peanut
whistle NorCal either this weekend.

72/3
Bob - N3MBY


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Hello All,

At the risk of being a "me too" message, I'd like to add my 2 cents. About the
only activity I heard on 20m was the W0SHQ special event station. I heard him
with his beam and all, but couldn't work him even running QRO into an R5. I
heard some activity around 14.250-265, but it was in the noise. Conditions
were *really* poor. I understand there was an aurora this weekend, but don't
know exactly when it occurred. I was disappointed no one heard my peanut
whistle NorCal either this weekend.

72/3
Bob - N3MBY


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I tried to find them multiple times/multiple bands to no avail.  Bummer!
Sorry Jeff.  I did hear and TRY and work a Moku Ola Island KH6xx/C1, but
I only had 15 mins to spend when they were on.

73 de N1PBT...ron

Ron Rossi

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Hey guys - next time you want to try this, let me make a suggestion.

Drive over to the Great Smoky Mountain National Park and drive up to
the Forney Ridge Parking area on Clingman's Dome.  C.D. itself is the
highest point in the park, and the second highest mountain in the eastern
US.  The summit is something like 6643 feet, with the parking area
maybe around 6400 or thereabouts.

Primarily, the parking area faces south and southeast if memory
serves correctly, but on the longer wavelengths it may not matter
too much.

If you are gutsy, you can cart your battery operated stuff up to the
summit and run from there.

I've been up there even during rotten band conditions (on 10 meters, for
example, last August) and been able to work into South America on
my HR2510 (seems to peak about 10 watts for SSB work).

If you catch the band right, you can kick butt from up there, even on
*2* meters.

There are campgrounds in the area so if you like camping while in the process
of your QRP work, you can do it there.

With even mediocre band conditions, you ought to be able to work just
about everywhere from that site on SOME band or another.  A 6000+ foot
tower under you can really make a difference!  :-)

Duane
wb9omc

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Hi, I am new to this group and Ham Radio (got my ticket a week ago). I am
interested in qrp homebrewing. This NorCal 40 kit seems to be very popular
here. Can somebody posted some info here or E-mail to me please? I would
like to find out things like DC/superhet?, Xtal filter?, CW/SSB? ...etc. I
really have no idea about the kit. Info on other kits are also appreciated.
Thanks.

73 DE N2YKP/AA

D. J. Wang


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QRP Digest                 Sunday, 17 April 1994       Volume 00 : Number
069

In this issue:

    MFJ 9040
    Trap Dipole need HELP!!
    hello, Jim
    RS trimmer caps
    NC40 Partial Kits

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From: [e-mail] (Keith M. Hamilton)
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 09:56:08 -0400
Subject: MFJ 9040

I know we would all like to solve the problems of the world,
but could we do it somewhere else?  I read this group for
elecrtronic and radio information.  Take the other discussions
elsewhere please.

Now -----  I had a chance to see a MFJ-9040 recently and I was
VERY impressed.  I am considering buying one at Dayton.

Lets herar your comments pro and con about this rig --
seems like the best rig for the money out there to me.  Am
I right or wrong?


- --
Keith M. Hamilton      73 de NO8Z
[e-mail]
Youngstown, Ohio

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From: Justin Rains <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 11:52:22 -0400
Subject: Trap Dipole need HELP!!

   I am interested in building a trap dipole for 10,15,20m. my question
is this--> How do I make the first trap resonate for both 15 & 20m??
I understand how to make a 2 band dipole with traps, but the third band
confuses me. Also, what type of capacitator should I use? I've heard of
transmitting caps, but do I need them for QRP work?
   Thanks for the help...
73-->
Justin AA9KM

------------------------------

From: James Speer <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 10:59:33 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: hello, Jim

Jim wrote:
>>
>> Gentlemen and Ladies: I like to think of these newsgroups as a
>> friendly place to get away from the ratrace of amateur radio in
>> which I work. When I go to the local gin mill, I don't expect to
>> see anything I say show up in the Newington Town Crier next week....
>> I don't expect to see anything I say here show up in any QRP
>> newsletters or any other media, either, unless you have asked for
>> and received my permission. It's happened once and I went away
>> for a while. If it happens again I'm going away for good. I don't
>> need the trouble. If you are the editor of a newsletter and you
>> can't give me the courtesy of asking first, you need to learn a
>> little about the writing game. And please don't cloak any
>> responses in the First Amendment.....
>>.......stuff deleted....
>> ...... If I see anything of mine in a newsletter
>> and prior permission wasn't granted, I'm outta here.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Jim Kearman, KR1S
>> [e-mail]

Steve responded:

>I'm going to "publish" the above "open letter / threat" on a poster
>board at my RARS-fest table this Sunday and solict comment...
>
>Good-bye, Jim.  :^)
>
>73,
>
>Steve Modena   [e-mail]
>
>P.S.
>Are postings to the boatanchor list and the qrp list copyrighted
>materials...or strictly confidential, non-disclosure utterances?

I now respond:

1. As Steve may not have noticed, Jim works for ARRL. What he says may be
mistaken for official positions of the organization. For this reason, his
employers have expressed concern in the past about his participation in
public
forums like this. Widespread dissemination of his informal comments, if
those
comments were misunderstood, might have very serious consequences for Jim.
    I, for one, value Jim's contributions to this group and intend to
continue to treat Jim's contributions as I would those of any friend I was
having an informal chat with: Not secret, but not intended, either, for
publication on the front page.
    I happen to know about Jim's situation, but I do not know the situation
of most other contributors to this list. Therefore, as a matter of common
courtesy, I plan to continue to treat everyone's postings as I do Jim's.

2. We should have learned from the discussion thus far that the copyright
laws
are complex, and one cannot be sure whether postings to these lists are
copyrighted or not. It does not seem to me, however, that that is the
issue. I
would have thought the issue was a simple one: Would you print a letter a
friend wrote you in the newspaper without first getting that friend's
permission? If you would not, then I can't imagine how you could bring
yourself
to do the equivalent with a posting to one of these newsgroups.

3. I hope that if Steve intends to display Jim's note, he will also
display
with it this one. More formally, I herewith give my permission for MY
contribution to this posting (that NOT marhed with ">'s") to be reproduced
anywhere, in any form, so long as it remains unchanged.

73,
Jim
K5YUT

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From: Jeffrey Herman <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 94 11:27:02 HST
Subject: RS trimmer caps

Copyright c 1994 by Jeffrey Herman
All rights reserved!

Gang:
   For some odd reason Radio Shack is discontinuing carrying its mica
trimmer caps - the close out price is $1.47. I just bought 6 for future
projects. Stock number is 272-1336. 95-420 pf.

Jeff NH6IL

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From: [e-mail] (Doug Hendricks)
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 94 22:21:34 PDT
Subject: NC40 Partial Kits

     The NorCal QRP Club is offering a partial NorCal 40 kit.  There were
so many requests for NC-40s that we could not fill due to the fact that
they were sold out that we have decided to offer partial kits of the hard
to
get parts and let the builders chase their own parts.  NorCal is selling
the
partial kits which include: pcboard, custom case, standoffs, special
screws,
MV108 Varactor diode, and the Manual.  These are the difficult parts to
obtain, and the rest of the parts are available through sources listed in
the
manual.  The cost is $25 and includes shipping and handling for domestic
orders.  Foreign orders are asked to send $30.  California residents must
add $1.94 for sales tax.  To order, send your check to:
        Jim Cates, WA6GER
        3241 Eastwood Rd.
        Sacramento, CA 95821

     The boards were ordered Friday from Far Circuits, and as soon as Jim
gets delivery, he will start shipping orders.
     Why aren't we doing full kits?  Because we are gearing up for the
Sierra, our all band kit that will be introduced at Dayton.  The brochures

go to the printers this week, and will be mailed out "first class mail" as

soon as I get them back.  Remember, the Sierra will only be sold to NorCal
members.  All members (over 450) will receive the brochure.
     The June issue of QRPp will be 80 pages.  A table of contents will be
posted soon.
        72, Doug, KI6DS


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I am interested in getting into QRP, I have read reviews, etc from
this mailing list and have a few questions I hope you folks can answer.

If I only have one band to choose, which band should I get, 40 meter ?
I currently have 5wpm only, but have already passed Element 3B and 4A
and working on 13wpm.

Also, what is involved in building a kit ? do I need to have equipment
for alignment and testing ? or all I have to do is solder all the parts
to the PCB ?  I have a EE background, done kit assembly before, but non
in analog electronics, I have no oscilloscope, spectrum analyzer,
freq counter etc to use to test the assembled kit.

besides the QRP kit, what else do I need to have a complete system ?
I suppose an antenna, electronic keyer (?), paddle, what else ?
I read Jeff Gold's article in a New Ham Companion and he mentioned
a homebrew helical type antenna, Jeff, do you have the instructions
on how to build one of those ?

I am currently on budget and hope not to exceed $100 for the complete
rig.  Is this a realistic number ? if not, how much should I expect to
spend ?

Jerry N3RKD


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Well, just a quick comment Duane....

Did you listen to the bands this weekend?  I do believe it would have made
no difference to the expedition to be up there, since several KW stations
with multi element beams couldn't get any signals through anywhere.  In
fact, I listened for Radio Nigeria at 7255 all night and could barely
hear the carrier!  Amazing.  The worst propogation I have heard in years,
one of the worst in 25 years of hamming.

Anyway, your suggested location sounds real good, though such height has
seemed to me (in my varied experience with QRP portable) to have very
little effect at HF frequencies, even 10 meters.  Now, up higher where you
depend upon line of sight!  Yikes, there is a difference!  I have found that
as long as I have an antenna in the clear and am not hemmed in by metallic
structures or mountains, I do quite as well as up on top of mountains......
of course, hard to get a real comparison.

72 all

Clark
WA3JPG

Building up a tiny station for my long hike this summer  :-)

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I sent the attached message via compuserve this weekend and just received
a message indicating that it was undelivered.

Subject: QRP Linear Amplifier For Sale

20 Watt output, low distortion (class AB1) 1.6 to 30Mhz
linear (SSB/CW) power amplifier kit from Motorola
application note AN-779.

The amplifier provides 28dB (+/- 1 dB) of broad band
power gain (28 dB is a 630X amplification factor). Full
20W ouput will require 30-40 milliwatts of drive. The
basic design uses push pull driver (MRF476 type) and
ouput stages (type MRF475 type) and has 50 ohm
input / output..

Typical applications might be:

1. Power amp for popular QRP rigs. For example,
increasing a 1W radio to 20W will increase your signal
by 13dB (little over 2 S units).

2. Add to low power exciter such as the T1 SSB/CW
design published in QST by Rick Campbell.

The kit includes all new, high quality parts and a
double sided PCB as shown in the application note.
The price is $95 as a kit or I will assemble and test
the board for $135.

You provide enclose, 12V power and low pass band
filters.

I can also provide the following:

12 volt T/R relay for $5, 5 element filter(s) for any
band(s) of interest (includes 3 SM capacitors, 2 toroids
magnetic wire, design info, ceramic stand-offs for point
to point construction) at $5 per band, and a multipole
6+ position ceramic band swithch for $7.

This is not a commercial offering and only one kit is
available.

Replys should be sent to the above email account or
[e-mail]

de, Ed W1AAZ



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From: Ted Rosen, Architectural Technology Department
I am looking for recommendations for a portable qrp antenna
for backpacking. The qualities I am looking for include:
1. Single band use, probably 40m.
2. Lightweight
3. Easy to setup, takedown and store for travel.
4. Easy to match for swr, hopefully without a tuner.
5. Effective radiation of transmitted signal.
6. Cheap.
Am I limited to a longwire, dipole, inverted vee, etc.?
What are the experiences of the group?
Thanks for your comments,
Ted, VA3TAR


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>
> Did you listen to the bands this weekend?  I do believe it would have made

    Yes, I did and they stunk.

> no difference to the expedition to be up there, since several KW stations
> with multi element beams couldn't get any signals through anywhere.  In

    See, you've just proved that QRO is pointless!  :-)

> fact, I listened for Radio Nigeria at 7255 all night and could barely
> hear the carrier!  Amazing.  The worst propogation I have heard in years,
> one of the worst in 25 years of hamming.

    Well, I have worked from that location a number of times, and
like I said - you can *hear* stuff from up there that you wouldn't hear
3000 feet or more further down.  And as we know, *transmitting* is only
HALF the job on a QSO.  You gotta HEAR 'em, too.  :-)

> Anyway, your suggested location sounds real good, though such height has
> seemed to me (in my varied experience with QRP portable) to have very
> little effect at HF frequencies, even 10 meters.  Now, up higher where you
> depend upon line of sight!  Yikes, there is a difference!  I have found that
> as long as I have an antenna in the clear and am not hemmed in by metallic
> structures or mountains, I do quite as well as up on top of mountains......
> of course, hard to get a real comparison.

    On transmitting, again, there may not be a LOT of difference.  But
again, what you can HEAR up there is incredible.  That location puts you
above and away from most noise sources that you get in a more residential
area, for one thing.  While a car may drive through the parking area with
an electrically noisy alternator, that is about it as far as artificial
sources go. (unless, of course, you get more than one ham up there at
once.....)  All that nice electrical quietness is quite conducive to
letting you hear a weaker signal without the noise *itself* drowning
it out.

    The first time I was up there (1985) with a radio, I carried my
2-M HT up the ramp to the observation tower.  Not only could I hear
repeaters ID from all over the place, I heard a specific station ID
and say he was in Duluth Minnesota!  I'd call that a pretty good signal
carriage on 2 meters.  Now there probably was little chance for me to work
him using my HT and a duck.  :-)  But had I had just slightly more
elaborate gear and some more power, it certainly would have been interesting
to try.

    (I know from personal experience that you CAN work some long
distances under the right conditions on 2M.  In about 1983, I caught
a hellacious band opening late one night.  My HT was connected to a
mag mount mobile antenna on the refrigerator - this worked - through which
I worked the 145.25 repeater in Indy, and connected to stations in
Oklahoma, Missourri and Alabama that night.  Indianapolis is about 70 miles
away from me on its own, and you can gauge the mileage from Indy to
the rest of those places on a map.  Granted working *through* a
reapeater isn't what some people would call "DXing", but those
distances are STILL a pretty impressive hop.)

    And, even if the bands really suck and you can't work much
from Clingman's Dome, the view can be great - take your camera.  :-)

Duane
wb9omc

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I think Duane raised a question I have had about relative elevation
and signal propogation at HF frequencies, and I wonder about other
experiences with it.  My apologies to Duane for not being clear about
my question, for I certainly agree that my HT is a wondrous little
thing at mountain locations.  (Not to mention the views :-)

I have a sea level location, on a campus, next to a marsh, and I ALWAYS
have as good ears as my ham friends up in the nearby 5000 - 10000 foot
mountains on 40 meters (for DX and stateside).  I use dipoles and a
Corsair or TS 440 for a reciever.  I have been on the HHH net for DX
and WAS work (as QRP) for a few years and have been quite happy with
my location, such as it is.  I have even been called upon to relay in some
DX while the fellows with higher locations with beams strain their ears....
not often, but I am always tickled when it happens.

I have been on little QRP expeditions and found, in general, that for HF
work, the lower locations seem to be as good as the higher locations
(of course, a higher antenna above earth ground is a different story),
and that being hemmed in by trees and hills is not usually a problem at
all, valleys as good as tops of mountains.  I suspect that with a multi
element wire beam where the takeoff angle is critical, there seems to be
good reason for the elevation, but generally, I have not seen any real
difference, especially down below 30 meters.  Don't do too much above
that.

Any other thoughts?

Clark
WA3JPG

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Since Ted is going backpacking, I assume that space to deploy an antenna is
not a problem.  A dipole will work for 40 meters quite well.  It is resonant,
cheap, portable, and effective.  A method to get it in the trees should be
considered.  Anyone use a portable loop antenna?
72 de Cameron, KT3A.




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The first time I heard of Clingman's Dome was when I was helping our
daughters study for a social studies test 2 month's ago.  Six months ago, our
family planned a vacation in Maggie Valley, NC during next month.  Well,
guess how far Clingman's Dome is from there?  Not far!  Well, all the
information I'm reading on the "Dome" is making me consider extending my
stay.  I wonder if they will miss me at work for a few more days........
You don't know how tempting that is.  I live in a neighborhood where everyone
owns a "touch lamp" and light dimmer switches! :-(
72 de Cameron, KT3A


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Gang,

Sorry for the one week delay, but last week was spent in beautiful
CA with 12 hour work days.  I took some work with me to do and never
got to it, i.e. two kits to build.  Saturday, April 16th, was a
bust on band conditions on 20M.

During the test, I started at 1215Z on 40M and was there for 1.6 hrs.
The conditions were not the best for QRP work.  I did work W8MVN on
40M as he was my #5 contact.  Worked him on the first try.  He was
the loudest signal of all during the period that I worked.  I also
heard a lot of people call him and he did not get back to them,
so for those of you who posted that you tried and failed, you were
not alone.

16 QSOs x 71 points x 13 states = 9,230 points.

The scarey part.  Of the 16 contacts, 10 of those people called
me by name.  That's what is scarey.  You guys running an online
database or what?

20M did not open at all for me.  I turned on the rig (NN1G) for 20M
and tuned the antenna.  Fairly strong carrier on 14.060 MHz and could
hear only one station.  So, shut down for couple of hours in hopes
that 20M would open up.  No such luck.  Carrier was still on frequency.
No signals heard anywhere including the digital stuff above 14.060MHz.

On Sunday, same story.  40M was dead when I got to it 1500Z.  Back to
20M and still there was a carrier on 14.060 MHz, but no other signals heard.
So went to pack and get ready for trip to 6-land.

Came back later.  Same carrier on freq.  Got to thinking, that doesn't
sound right.  Got another receiver (MXM) and sure enough 14.060 MHz
carrier with no modulation.  So, I thought to myself, what in the
world would be doing that.  I went through the whole house and unplugged
everything and I mean everything.  Came back to receivers and sure enough
the carrier was gone.  So, I said to myself, what's different in the
house that I didn't have during the last QRP test.  Ah-ha.  The answer
machine.  Sure enough, the PANASONIC KX-T1432 EASA-Phone puts out a
strong pure carrier on 14.060MHz!!!  They will hear about this.  :-)
The machine goes down whenever I'm going to get on 20M.  Maybe the FCC
might be interested in this little puppy also.  I can say that they
make a darn good qrp rig.  No chirp and absolutely NO drift.  Maybe
I can make it into a beacon.  :-)  May have such an animal in your
neighborhood too.

Rig used was a new MXM Transceiver at 0.95W out into a 40M long wire,
reduced from 80M to see if I could reduce the directivity a little.
The rig worked beautifully.  A report to follow later this week.

Not anywhere near an impressive showing, but we all know how bad the
bands have been and the weekend of April 9th was no exception.  That's
why it's a hobby and it also shows us how much we depend upon outside
factors to help us communicate.

For now,  dit dit
Chuck Adams  K5FO  CP-60
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HI all,

just stopped by work on the way home to clean up emergencies and
email.

Well about the TTARS expedition.. bottom line.. SUCCESS.

Took Friday off from work to go up early and set up the equipment
and camper. One of worst storms of the year.. had the repeater
emergency net set up due to tornados.. one hit the West side of
town. Terrible rain and flooding. Spend the afternoon watching tv
till the rain let up enough to drive to park.  Got to the park and
set up the camper just before the next storm hit and terrible
downpours.. decided to wait till Sat. to set up stations.

Saturday.. got up real early and the WX was perfect .. clear and
starting to warm up.  Set up the ZS6??? and the MFJ HI Q loop.
Hooked up the old Yaesu 301 and the MFJ SSB.  everything working
fine. Made first contact on 40 meter SSB with another special
events station.. good signal and audio report. Let WD4GZW take
over now that I knew the station was working. Almost immediately
he made a contact.. the guy couldn't believe we were using low
power (just about 5-7 watts) .. another guy cut in and they had a
3 way QSO.. The 2 other guys ended up going down to 5 watts and
giving each other signal reports.. they couldn't stop talking
about how impressed they were that low power worked on SSB.. had a
comment that one knew that QRP was possible on CW, but never even
gave a thought to QRP/SSB. New converts? Got some great quotes for
an article.

A little later the students arrived. Talked them in on simplex 2
meter frequency. One operated the Yaesu, the other the MFJ. After
a couple of hours they asked about setting up a dipole.. happen to
have an extra 20 meter dipole in  my car..let them set up the
antenna using the old bow and arrow method.. 2 shots.. killed 2
trees... The dipole worked great on 20.. worked Spain, and some
DX.

Yes, the bands were TERRIBLE.. but still managed a good amount of
contacts.. the students learned a lot about operating procedures
and were impressed with how well QRP worked.. even with battery
power, dipoles and bad band conditions.. I let them work most of
the time on SSB.. they were really into it...

So, didn't break any records with number of QSOs.. think we worked
about 65 stations on Sat (The bands were MUCH worse on Sunday, so
went hiking with the family).. but the expedition in my opinion
did what it set out to do.. QRP worked, and people on the air even
tried it out and were impressed and got some new hams into HF and
gave them a reason to upgrade.

Thanks to all of you who tried.... we will be doing this again.

73

Jeff, AC4HF

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Gang,

I got some good news and I got some bad news.

Good News - received Spring 1994 issue of Hambrew
Bad News  - received Spring 1994 issue of Hambrew

Total of 48 pages, counting front and back cover.

Table of Contents

  Letters                                          4
  Kit Review: OHR WM-1 QRP Wattmeter               7
  An Easy to Build 15 Watt Transmitter             9
  New Products                                    15
  Brand New MXM Transceiver                       16
  Some Tips On VFO Stability by Doug DeMaw        19
  Neophyte Roundup                                22
  The W6EMT 10 Meter Receiver                     23
  Improved Neophyte Receiver                      25
  Using Transistors and ICs by B. Williams        28
  20/20/Hindsight                                 30
  TwoFer III Salvation Transmitter                32
  Narrow Band Sweep For Signal Generators         38
  Shack Shots                                     45
  Classified Advertising                          46

There wasn't, IMHO, that much exciting in the issue.
The review of the MXM Transceiver, of which I have two,
was complimentary to the rig but not much meat.

On page 45, there are two photographs of W8MVN!!! and
his setup.  For those of you who didn't work him, at
least you can see what he looks like.  :-)

The 15W transmitter is for 15 meters uses a 74HC240
for an oscillator.  Don't know about you guys, but I
just can't see generating square waves for output
to a 7 pole Cheby filter to go to an antenna.  It's
just not spectrally within the FCC requirements for
harmonic supression.  I'll do the analysis and put
it in the K5FO Newsletter.  And the phrase (and I quote)
"The following ten meter circuit values should work,
but there may still be a few bugs to iron out".
Don't think that I'd publish anything like that and
hope that I never have to eat my words if I do.  :-)

I have probably wasted too much bandwidth already and
I apologize.

dit dit

Chuck Adams  K5FO  CP-60
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ok, nobody has replied to my earlier posting yet about my questions
on equipment/rig I need to get started in QRP.

I always read about success stories here and in magazines and never
horror or failure stories.  I have asked a lot of local hams and
so far not a single one recommend it, they say I will be frustrated,
hams ignore weak signals, propagation condition for QRP is not
good and I won't get anywhere, kit quality not that good, and
many more reasons.

How popular is QRP considering there are only a few thousand (<100K ?)
hams who do QRP compared to the millions of licensed hams ?

73s de Jerry N3RKD


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On 19 Apr 1994 [e-mail] wrote:

> From: Ted Rosen, Architectural Technology Department
> I am looking for recommendations for a portable qrp antenna
> for backpacking. The qualities I am looking for include:
> 1. Single band use, probably 40m.
> 2. Lightweight
> 3. Easy to setup, takedown and store for travel.
> 4. Easy to match for swr, hopefully without a tuner.
> 5. Effective radiation of transmitted signal.
> 6. Cheap.
> Am I limited to a longwire, dipole, inverted vee, etc.?
> What are the experiences of the group?
> Thanks for your comments,
> Ted, VA3TAR
>
For many years, back in the 70's I used a 40 meter dipole while camping;
it never failed to give me contacts running 2 watts, no tuner.  Mine
wasn't particularly light weight but making a light weight version
shouldn't alter the performance.

I could be set up as a dipole, an inverted Vee or as a quarter wave
end-fed with one half stretched out as a counterpoise.

Mind you, conditions were better at that time!

72,
Jim, VE2KN




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thanks to all those who replied to my posting about QRP kits!

Jeff NH6IL
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73s de Jerry N3RKD


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I have been reading the qrp archives (from ftp site) and would like to
join the ARCI and NorCal (this is the one that has QRPp, right ?)_
Do I just send my check to the address shown in the article ?

how about ordering the SP-1 kit , do I just send my check to them
and they know to send me the kit ? I'm not used to this kind of mail order
transaction.

is the super cmos keyer II still available from R&R (?) ?

73s de Jerry N3RKD


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     Hiya, Chuck
     You're not the first five to go to six land and seem to get sucked into a
black hole.  If you think you worked W8MVN, you might be ready for an entire
episode of the Twilight Zone written about your contest efforts.  And there
could be a 15-yard penalty assessed for a beacon operation below 14.1.
     Beyond that, we Internetters are glad to have you back to put our contest
weekend into some sort of reality context.
     72 and next time, take the rig!  De alan, w6rcl / kaul @ nbc.ge.com

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>
>From: Ted Rosen, Architectural Technology Department
>I am looking for recommendations for a portable qrp antenna
>for backpacking. The qualities I am looking for include:
>1. Single band use, probably 40m.
>2. Lightweight
>3. Easy to setup, takedown and store for travel.
>4. Easy to match for swr, hopefully without a tuner.
>5. Effective radiation of transmitted signal.
>6. Cheap.
>Am I limited to a longwire, dipole, inverted vee, etc.?
>What are the experiences of the group?
>Thanks for your comments,
>Ted, VA3TAR
>

If you can get hold of Tuneable Portable antenna from
Spilsbury Communication Ltd, model STA-210D, it will serve your
need.  It covers 3.5 to 13.4 MHz.  It looks like a CB antenna with
a clamp welded to the base of the antenna. By turning the antenna
at the base, you match the antenna at your operating frequency.

I picked up couple from Ford Surplus in Smith Fall, Ontario.
With a 40 meter hybrid, I am having a vertical phase array with
effective radiation.

Also, their portable SSB Transceiver SBX-11 is great for camping trip.
They are 4 channels crystal SSB radio with 10 W output. It uses 9
D cell which store at the back of the radio.  It is about 8 lbs with
batteries.

Ying   VA3YH / VE3FUB

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I hate to do this, but I absolutely must find Ron Majewski's email address.
Does anyone have it?  Or Ron can you send it to me direct if you are still
on the system?  72, Doug

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Hiya, I sent a response -- don't know how it didn;t get there, but since I did
not save it, here is another version.  Hope this one makes it.

     FIRST:  You asked about rigs.  There are lotsa.  Most are kits -- though a
few are buy-able fully-built.  Take a look at the ads in QST and CQ for the
new Ten-Tec Scout.  Single band and pricey--about $500.  BUT each additional
band can be added for $25, there is digital readout and good filtering in a
superhet rcvr, power fully adjustable from 5w to 50W and both SSB and CW.
Sounds hard to beat.  Now, if you're looking for something much cheaper that
you can build yourself -- check the May issue of CQ Magazine (most big
libraries subscribe, or you might be able to find it in your Magazine store).
Read the review on the A and A engineering 20M rig which sells as a kit for
$169.95.  Pretty good rig, 5w, CW, good filtering in a superhet, etc.  Want to
spend less?  NN1G sells kits as does an outfit named Radio Kit, as does MFJ.
Some of them advertise in the Ham Mags, some don't.   You can look NN1G up in
the call book, or Radio Kits is in New Hampshire (might try area code plus
555-1212).  MFJ advertises in CQ, QST, 73, and can often be found in most ham
stores.  One more thought on rigs -- watch this space (the Internet) for how to
join the Northern Calif QRP Club, then then be eligible to buy the Sierra (an
all band QRP rig will will be sold to members for about $300 in kit form
sometime this summer).
     SECOND.  I have been a builder since I got started in radio in 1958.  Not
a great builder -- but an avid builder with lotsa projects over the years.
Some worked, some didn't.  I wrote the first article which appeared in 73
Magazine in 1975-or-76 on converting a crystalplex CB rig to 10M (5w on AM) and
have always loved low pwer operating.  So I don't sound like a hypocrite, I
will say for the record I also own a couple of 100W transceivers and a Heathkit
KW.  But there is something that keeps bringing me back to low power.  If other
hams in your town tell you it won't work -- tell them that just isn't true.  I
ran 10w in the contest a couple of weeks ago and despite rotten propagation, I
worked 17 contacts with 12-states and Panama in 2-hours of casual operating.
Others worked a lot more stations and did a lot better with multipliers.  In
1985, in a 3-month period, running 6-watts input to a rig I built from the ARRL
Handbook and a receiver from QST called 'the Barbados' I worked about
80-countries using wire antennas on a hotel balcony.  Yes, I was on-air from
Amman, Jordan, as JY9RL (which some think adds about 10db to anyone's signal)
but the point is, I was working paths of 7-8 thousand miles -- more than a
kilomile per watt.  There are lots of people to work on QRP.  Of course, you
never work everyone you want to, but hang out at 7035-7040, 10123+-5, or
14060+-5 and see what happens.  QRP really is the last outpost of the guys who
get as much of a thrill from almost every contact as they did with their
first!!!  If you can't understand the latter statement, wait til you've tried
it.

     73, 72, and GL de alan, w6rcl  ([e-mail])

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In response to Jerry's comments on recommended rigs and QRP in general, I
wish to share my ideas.
QRP is an art and a philosophy.  I am lured into challenges.  QRP is a
challenge.  If you were a fisherman, you could catch hundreds of fish by
throwing a stick of dynamite into the lake.  If you were a hunter, you could
hit that deer with an M16.  But, are you satisfied?
Look at contest results and note the QRP scores compared to others.
Both operators may be happy with their scores even though the QRP op had a
much lower score.  I am okay if I work someone with 100 watts.  I know that
with 2 watts and good skills I still work them.  I feel better working them
with 2 watts than if I used 100 watts.  It makes radio that much more magic
to me.  If I work them with something I built and not something mass produced
in Japan, I feel even better!  I take more pride in the contact.
Just as the race car mechanic tries to build a car to go faster and burn less
fuel, so is the QRP'er with their equipment.
As for your rig......you can buy a QRP rig built. You can build a kit.  You
could build from proven plans.  Or, you could design your own.  You are no
less a person for choosing any of the above.  It is all in what you want.
If you have a 100 watt radio I suggest operating with 5 watts to start.
Most rigs can be backed down.  If you can build, maybe buy a kit.
Never before has there been so many QRP kits.  If you are skilled in
construction or design, build from plans or brew your own.  The group is here
to help you.  You don't always find such an opportunity.  Let us know what
you would like.
72 de Cameron, KT3A


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> I always read about success stories here and in magazines and never
> horror or failure stories.  I have asked a lot of local hams and
> so far not a single one recommend it, they say I will be frustrated,
> hams ignore weak signals, propagation condition for QRP is not
> good and I won't get anywhere, kit quality not that good, and
> many more reasons.

Reponse to this should be interesting! As Ade Weiss says in the "Joy of
QRP" frustration is a function of expectations, i.e. don't expect more
than your rig/antenna/experience can deliver. Chances are a dipole at 20ft
wont get you much dx with 5 watts just starting in qrp at this point in
the cycle, although it is possible. Improvements in all areas to include
experience will lead to successively rewarding experiences.

72, Greg KD4HZ





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From [e-mail]  Wed Apr 20 14:15:55 1994
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> house that I didn't have during the last QRP test.  Ah-ha.  The answer
> machine.  Sure enough, the PANASONIC KX-T1432 EASA-Phone puts out a
> strong pure carrier on 14.060MHz!!!  They will hear about this.  :-)
> The machine goes down whenever I'm going to get on 20M.  Maybe the FCC
> might be interested in this little puppy also.  I can say that they
> make a darn good qrp rig.  No chirp and absolutely NO drift.  Maybe
> I can make it into a beacon.  :-)  May have such an animal in your
> neighborhood too.

    I have a KXT1450 (I think that's the right number).  While
I've never noticed it generating anything on 10 meters (or anywhere
else), *it* is quite susceptible to RF.

    For openers, everytime I even power up my Uniden HR2510 (don't
have to transmit, just rotate the tuning knob) the answering machine
starts doing things.....playing back, erasing the OGM, etc.  And I
can't just power it off, I actually have to UNPLUG the power cord or
it will power itself on and start doing things.  Wierd.

    Granted, the machine is physically located within inches
of my coax, only because given the layout of our apartment, there just
*isn't* anyplace better to put it.

    The other thing we noticed is that if it is recording an
Incoming message and one of the local Chicken Banders starts up,
the machine won't drop out of record!  It keeps on going and gives
me a perfect taped transcript of the Childrens Banders speech, that
is until he stops transmitting long enough OR the tape runs out,
which has happened.

    I've been thinking about getting one of those nifty little
RF filters they make to put in-line.  Don't know if they're worth the
money or not.

    Maybe I'll have to tune around some more and see if ours *does*
radiate like yours - sometimes on my DX440 SWL rcvr I have noticed some
little birdies that I can't account for that *I* thought were
within the radio itself.  (major source of noise, Mr. TV, already having
been powered off, along with #2 source, the speed control box for the
ceiling fan)

Duane


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>
> The first time I heard of Clingman's Dome was when I was helping our
> daughters study for a social studies test 2 month's ago.  Six months ago, our
> family planned a vacation in Maggie Valley, NC during next month.  Well,
> guess how far Clingman's Dome is from there?  Not far!  Well, all the
> information I'm reading on the "Dome" is making me consider extending my
> stay.  I wonder if they will miss me at work for a few more days........
> You don't know how tempting that is.  I live in a neighborhood where everyone
> owns a "touch lamp" and light dimmer switches! :-(
> 72 de Cameron, KT3A
>
>

    Hey, if you're gonna be in the neighborhood anyhow, GO FOR IT!

    If you come into the GSMNP from the NC side, all ya gotta do
is follow that main road through the park to Newfound Gap.  The road
to Clingman's Dome splits off from there.

    Hints:  If you want radio and don't care about the view,
go anytime of day.  The mountain tends to often be foggy with a shitty
view in the morning.  This haze will often break around noonish or
mid-afternoon.  Listen to the weather forecasts, too.

    Also hint:  it can get surprisingly chilly up there, even during
the summer.  Take a jacket.  You can also sunburn surprisingly quickly,
especially if you're like me and tend toward that sunburn anyhow.
Hats are good.  :-)

    Since you're apparently going in May, you might want to check
out some of the hiking possibilities.  I think many of the wildflowers
will be in bloom, hopefully you won't have missed them.  From the
obs. tower at the summit of Clingman's you have access to the
Appalachian Trail itself.  There are other trails that branch
off from that.  You can usually purchase some decent hiking trail maps
at the main office of the park, down on the Gatlinburg side.

    For another nice scenic area, also go to Cades' Cove.  Some
good hiking can be had from there.  I don't know what the radio
is like from the cove, though....  :-)  :-)

Duane


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To Paul, I say *bravo*!  To the originator of the note, I say this, in addition
to what Paul has already said.  I'm a really unconventional qrp operator.
First, I don't work qrp except when I very occasionally get the urge.  And
second, when I do get the urge, I use about a hundred milliwatts.  I don't use
a kits because I like to design my own rigs for qrp.  Because I'm not an
engineer, my rigs are crude, and operating them is all art.  Right now I have
a single-transistor vfo driving a class A buffer stage driving a class C
transistor final.  It's an 80-mtr rig, and I have thirteen states confirmed
(without cheating) on that band.

By "cheating," I mean using qro to get a contact first and then putting on the
qrp rig.

I hope all this goes to show you that "qrp" can mean different things--and sometimes some pretty strange thing--to different ops.

72.5954536

Don Coleman, W1VOQ

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> I always read about success stories here and in magazines and never
> horror or failure stories.  I have asked a lot of local hams and
> so far not a single one recommend it, they say I will be frustrated,
> hams ignore weak signals, propagation condition for QRP is not
> good and I won't get anywhere, kit quality not that good, and
> many more reasons.

Propagation conditions are the same for everyone.  Of those who claimed
"hams ignore weak signals", how many said that *they* ignore weak signals?
If I can't make out a callsign, I probably won't try answering, but *I*
certainly don't require signals to be ear-splitting, and never have.  Making
contacts is somewhat easier with more power, and so a beginner may not want
to try milliwatting, but even as a Novice years ago, I never ran more
than about 75W (this was after the Novice limit was raised, though), and
did quite well with an ancient 20W phasing-type SSB rig.  Kit quality varies;
don't get Ramsey kits to operate (but they're sort of OK as initial learning
experiences), but Oak Hills Research and other kit vendors have perfectly
fine kits.  You won't find kits with multiple VFOs, DC-to-daylight receive
and transmit coverage, and a builtin separate receiver that automatically
seeks out WWV at 18 past the hour to let you hear the latest propagation
conditions, but if you don't actually *want* crud like that, kits are fine.

> How popular is QRP considering there are only a few thousand (<100K ?)
> hams who do QRP compared to the millions of licensed hams ?

How popular is jogging compared to the millions of licensed drivers?

73, John, WB7EEL

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Don't throw away those old modems, telephones, etc.  Most of them
have valuable parts including a 3.579545 Xtal which falls at least in
4 bands (not necessarily cw though).

        Evert

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Just got word that the WM-1 Wattmeter is available for
$99.95 plus $4.50 S&H from Oak Hills Research in assembled
form.  This is for those who don't have the time or energy
to build or the desire to do so either.

Still a good deal at any price.  Just another satisfied
customer, but I did build mine.  The kit is still at the
$89.95 price plus shipping and handling.

dit dit
Chuck Adams  K5FO  CP-60
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Many thanks to those who responded to my posting regarding NorCal 40 and QRP
kits.

73 de D.J. N2YKP/AA ([e-mail])

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Can't believe this went by without comment last week -- From Bill, N8ET:

>Does anyone know what happened to Chuck ?? I have not seen a post from him
>since the middle of the QSO Party, and he is usually god for two or three a
>day...

HI HI  :-)

dit dit
!

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Anybody know when the Rochester, New Hamshire (not New York)
hamfest is going to be...???? this used to be the Deerfield
fest


Tnx   Clark Fishman  WA2UNN


      [e-mail]



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I am interested in building a low power, frequency hopped
transmitter/receiver for an experimental project.  Can
someone provide some technical assistance on how to build
the necessary circuits, and a good reference or two to
fill in the details.

All help will be appreciated.

Thanks!

Andy Hull
Univ. Illinois
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Donald says that his rigs are crude - ha! My transmitters are cruder: I
build them on wooden blocks and use wood screws for terminals. My lastest
40M xmtr uses the variable cap from a UHF TV tuner complete with the channel
indicator: channels 14-83. I want to adjust it so that 7040 kc falls on
channel 40. You folks would laugh so hard (or else just shake your head
in embarrassment) if you saw my contraptions. I'm amazed that they work.

Any of you folks who put out newsletters want photos?

Jeff NH6IL


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I'm looking for a way to get more of my signal out into the ether;
presently I'm just running with the antenna naively attached to the back
of the rig (the "it's gotta go somewhere" approach), but I suspect that
if the antenna/transmission line were more closely matched to what the
rig wants to see I'd have better results.  So I'm asking: which
commercially available transmatch (antenna tuner) do you recommend?  My
requirements are:  high quality, small/light, qrp power only, efficient,
etc.  Cost isn't really an issue (although I _do_ have a budget), and if
necessary a kit would be fine.  The Oak Hills wattmeter has received
good reviews; do they also offer a transmatch?  MFJ makes a variety of
transmatches, but I've heard that quality is variable; will one of their
units work for me (or, should I avoid any particular models?) ?
Oh yeah, I'd really like to have both balanced and unbalanced outputs.

Either post to the reflector or e-mail me ([e-mail]) and
I'll summarize responses.

Thanks and 73
Bob    ki5ez


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On Wed, 20 Apr 1994 [e-mail] wrote:

> Can't believe this went by without comment last week -- From Bill, N8ET:
>
> >Does anyone know what happened to Chuck ?? I have not seen a post from him
> >since the middle of the QSO Party, and he is usually god for two or three a
> >day...
>
> HI HI  :-)
>
> dit dit
> !


Does anyone claim to be his son?  :-)

........................KU7Y........................
.................Monte "Ron" Stark..................
.................Sun Valley, Nevada.................



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Andy Hull writes:

> I am interested in building a low power, frequency hopped
> transmitter/receiver for an experimental project.  Can
> someone provide some technical assistance on how to build
> the necessary circuits, and a good reference or two to
> fill in the details.

A handy place to start is the ARRL's Spread Spectrum Sourcebook. Check
recent ARRL Handbooks also; real keeners will want to check some of the
professional literature, like Dickson's classic book on the subject. U.S.
patent number 2,292,387 "Secret Communication System" (FH spread spectrum),
though granted in 1942, still has some useful ideas on synchronising the
transmitter and receiver. They used player piano innards to generate PN
sequences. We use logic chips now.

You won't believe the names on the patent: Hedy Kiesler Markey was better
known as movie star Hedy Lamarr...

Electronics World and Wireless World had a series on SS last year, with full
construction details of a 70cm direct sequence system with do-it-yourself
sliding correlators.

Spread spectrum is still considered sensitive technology, and there are
significant restrictions on using it in many countries (including the U.S.).
Please make sure you understand them. Among other things, only certain PN
sequences are allowed.

73 from Burnaby,
laura VE7LDH

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>     Granted, the machine is physically located within inches
> of my coax, only because given the layout of our apartment, there just
> *isn't* anyplace better to put it.

As an experiment, try wrapping the machine and/or the coax in aluminum foil.
If that makes a difference, it may give you some ideas on ways to shield
one from the other.  I used to use the wrap-in-foil trick all the time when
solving RFI problems with computers.  It sure ain't scientific, but it is an
easy way to experiment with brute-force shielding, and it's fairly cheap.

It might also help to use coax that has a foil shield or a double shield.
That affects how much RF leaks.  If you have a balanced antenna, use a
balun, and make sure your rig has a good ground.  Without this, you may
have RF on the shield, at which point the type of the shield is irrelevant.

A QST I read recently (maybe it was even the April 94 issue?) had an article
about an FCC survey of telephones.  They found that many models had really
poor RFI suppression.  Because the FCC found models that had sufficient RFI
suppression, they decided it was the phones' fault, not the RF transmitters.
The FCC also found that the RF filters out there were pretty useless.  It
seems the RFI is getting into the phone in the phone, not in the line.
(That seems to make sense, since I'd think most RFI in the line would be
common-mode.  That would be rejected by the phone hybrid, wouldn't it?)

          Stephen


--
Stephen Trier
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Jeff, your transmitters sound like my howbrew balanced tuners!
All built on availble scraps of plywood with minimal parts and the KISS
principle.........photos also available on request!

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On Wed, 20 Apr 1994, Jeffrey Herman wrote:

> Donald says that his rigs are crude - ha! My transmitters are cruder: I
> build them on wooden blocks and use wood screws for terminals. My lastest
> 40M xmtr uses the variable cap from a UHF TV tuner complete with the channel
> indicator: channels 14-83. I want to adjust it so that 7040 kc falls on
> channel 40. You folks would laugh so hard (or else just shake your head
> in embarrassment) if you saw my contraptions. I'm amazed that they work.
>
> Any of you folks who put out newsletters want photos?
>
> Jeff NH6IL
>
>

From [e-mail]  Thu Apr 21 03:28:43 1994
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              PRESS RELEASE

April 22, 1994, Idaho Falls Idaho

Renowned QRPer and cowboy wannabe KR8L/7 loaded his American
made radio into his American made pickup truck today and headed
south to Utah for, in his words, "some sight seein', some four
wheelin', and some QRPin'."  The tall, charismatic Amateur Radio
operator reported that he would be operating his Ten Tec Argosy
in low power mode using a 50 foot end-fed wire and tuner.  The
lack of trees on the beautiful Utah desert may be a hindrance, but
"what the heck -- mebee I'll just hitch it to one of them perty red
rocks."  As he powered his big, red GMC out of the driveway, he was
heard to say: "I'm hankerin' to try some of that QRP SSB stuff.  Hope
all the boys and gals east of the Great Divide will be listenin' fer
my signals.  YeeeeeeeeHaaaa!"

KR8L and KA8TER expect to be in the Utah desert through the weekend
and into the first part of next week.



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Soo Jeff thinks he's got me on crudity!  Well, let me tell him!  My current
rig is built in a utility box with the transistors screw-mounted by their leads
on one of those Cinch Jones barrier strips.

You know, I think we should have a *Yoogly Construxion* contest!

72.949633835

Don Coleman, W1VOQ

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Hi Bob.  I have used an MFJ 16010 random wire tuner for *many* years with
good success.  Although not strictly a QRP unit (it's rated for 200w), it is
small and rugged, and works very well.  I recently acquired an MFJ 901B
tuner which is also rated for 200w, but is similarly compact and rugged.  I
think both of these tuners are well made and have been pleased with their
performance.  I use both with random wires, and use the 901B to expand the
"bandwidth" of my HF6V on 80m.  Neither has a built-in match indicator, but
this is not a problem for me, as I use a homebrew unit based on a W1FB
design, or the built-in SWR meter in my Argosy.

73, Bill, KR8L/7  ([e-mail])

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It's May 6-7 (Fri-Sat).

New England QRP Club will be meeting there on Saturday afternoon.

73

Jim



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I am looking for a HW-8 and an average price figure.  Can anyone tell
me about what they are selling for if you can even find one?????????

            73's Evert WA5OJI

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=>
=>I am looking for a HW-8 and an average price figure.  Can anyone tell
=>me about what they are selling for if you can even find one?????????
=>
=>            73's Evert WA5OJI
=>

I haven't posted this on Usenet for awhile, but I will soon, and I will
get more responses and update it.  The two responses I have for an HW-8
are $75 for one that needed work and $115 for one in good condition.


              USED HF & 6m RIG PRICE SURVEY
                  26 Oct 1993 Version

Here is a list of actual transactions involving buying
and selling of used HF amateur radios.

I have absolutely no affiliation with any ham-radio-related
business.  Rigs are sorted by maker, model, and price.  All
transactions were made within the past three years.  I welcome
any additional responses; please indicate maker and model of
your used rig, date bought/sold, how sold (Usenet, retailer,
on air, private, etc.), price, condition, and any accessories
or options.  This survey is limited to used HF and 6m rigs only.
For prices on new rigs, consult the AES catalog, or call a
ham retailer for a quote. ("List" prices are usually much higher
than actual prices.)


Make Model     How Sold    Price(US$) Extras            Comment
----- ----     --------    ---------- ------            -------

ATLAS

   210X        OnAir          $150    None               Good condn,6/93

COBRA

   148         Hamfest Foothl  $70    None               CB convrtd to 10m

COLLINS

   75S3B/32S1  Usenet         $500    Spkr,PS            good condn

DRAKE

   TR-3        Retailer       $300    None               fair condn
   TR-5        Internet       $300    CW flt,PS          good condn
   TR-4        Hamfest Foothl $275    spkr,mic,PS        fair condn
   TR-4        Hamfest Foothl $300    spkr,mic,PS        fair condn
   R-4C/T-4C   OnAir          $200    PS,VFO             separate rcvr/xmtr
                                                            fair condn
   TR-7        Usenet         $600    3 flt, PS          good condn

HEATHKIT

   HW-8        Hamfest         $75    none               no manual,need align
   HW-8        Hamfest Evnsvl $115    PS                 good condn
   HW-101      Private        $125    CW flt,mic,PS,spkr good condn
   HW-101      Private        $150    CW flt,mic,PS,spkr good condn
   HW-101      Usenet         $200    CW flt,mnl,PS,spkr needed some work,3/92
   Mohawk/Mrdr Private         $80    mic,mnl            TX/RX pair,1960,7/93
   SB-101      Usenet         $110    CW flt             good condn
   SB-104A     Private        $150    VFO,PS,mic,mnl     needed work,7/93
   SB-200      YelloSht       $325    New tubes          good condn
   SB-300/400  Usenet         $125    CW/AM flt,spkr,mnl poor condn,4/92
   SB-300/400  Usenet         $225    CW/AM flt,spkr,mnl good condn,5/93
   SB-303      Usenet         $100    Cw flt, manual     rcvr, good c, 8/92

HALLICRAFTERS

   S-19        Private         $95    None               good con, 6/92
   S-38        Hamfest         $35    None               good con, 6/92
   S-120       Usenet          $60    None               good con, 6/92
   SX-42       Usenet         $135    None               fair con, 6/92
   SX-101      Hamfest        $160    None               good con, 6/92
   SX-110      Usenet          $85    None               good con, 6/92

HAMMERLUND

   HQ-145      Private         $45    none               good condn
   HQ-145      Private         $85    none               good condn
   HQ-170      Hamfest TRW    $250    spkr               new condn
   SP-200      Hamfest         $45    no PS              good condn,9/93

HENRY/TEMPO

   One         Hamfest NC     $140    none               fair condn
   2020        NutsVolts       $75    none               fair condn

ICOM

   IC-551      Private        $350    FM                 6m rig, new condn
   IC-575H     Retailer       $500    None               6m, 7/93,poor condn
   IC-575H     Retailer       $720    None               6m, 5/93,good condn
   IC-575H     Retailer      $1000    None               6m, mint, 6/93
   IC-720A     Hamfest Lvrmr  $400    CW flt             near new condn
   IC-730      OnAir          $400    none               fair condn
   IC-735      Usenet         $600    None               good condn
   IC-735      Usenet         $700    CW flt, keyer      good condn
   IC-735      Private        $800    Keyer,spkr,PS      1 yr old, w/paddle
   IC-740      Hamfest NH     $575    PS,CW flt,FM       good condn
   IC-740      Dayton         $650    CW flt             good condn
   IC-745      Usenet         $600    PS,keyer,CW flt    good condn
   IC-745      Dayton         $650    PS,keyer,CW flt    good condn
   IC-751      Retailer       $700    CW flt             new condn
   IC-751      Hamfest NC     $750    PS,CW flt,keypd    w/speech modl
   IC-751A     YlloSht        $850    None               1 yr old
   IC-751A     Retailer      $1150    PS,CW/SSB flt      good condn
   IC-761      Private       $1300    none               good condn
   IC-765      Usenet        $1600    3 CW flt           new condn
   IC-765      QST Clasfd    $1788    none               new condn
   IC-765      Retailer      $1800    none               fair condn
   IC-765      Usenet        $2000    w/all options      good condn
   IC-781      OnAir         $3500    none               good condn
   IC-781      QST Clasfd    $4000    none               new condn

JOHNSON

   ValiantI    Hamfest TRW    $150    None               fair condn
   VikRanger   Hamfest TRW    $100    None               fair condn

KENWOOD

   TS-120S     OnAir          $300    none               fair condn
   TS-120S     Usenet         $350    PS                 fair condn
   TS-140      Private        $550    none               new condn,7/93
   TS-140      Private        $700    CW flt             new condn,7/92
   TS-180S     Usenet         $450    FC,CW flt          fair condn
   TS-430S     Private        $500    none               good condn
   TS-430      Private        $600    FM bd              good condn
   TS440S/AT   OnAir          $750    2 flt, ant tunr    new condn
   TS440S/AT   OnAir          $850    2 flt, ant tunr    new condn
   TS-520      OnAir          $300    None               good condn
   TS-520      Private        $325    mic,CW flt         good condn, 9/93
   TS-520      Private        $350    mic,manual,meter   good condn
   TS-520      Private        $450    Heath amp,mic      good condn
   TS-520S     Private        $300    Heath amp,mic      FC, good condn
   TS-520S     Usenet         $375    CW flt,MFJ tuner   good condn
   TS-520SE    YlloSht        $350    VFO,spkr
   TS-520SE    OnAir          $500    VFO,spkr,CW flt,
                                         mic
   TS-530S     Private        $425    none               good condn
   TS-530S     Private        $550    spkr,desk mic      good condn
   R-599A + T  Private        $175    separate Rcvr/Xmtr needed repair
   TS-690      OnAir         $1800    CW flt,PS,stab,VM  new condn, w/6m
   TS-820      Hamfest NJ     $400    none               fair condn
   TS-820S     Usenet         $165    none               needed repair
   TS-820S     Usenet         $575    CW flt,MFJ ant tr, prob with display
                                        spare finals
   TS-830S     Hamfest LA     $600    none               good condn
   TS-830S     Hamfest Cincin $600    none               good condn
   TS-830S     Retailer       $650    desk mic           good condn
   TS-850S/AT  OnAir         $1250    3 flt, ant tunr    new condn
   TS-940SAT   Usenet        $1150    spkr,desk mic,     good condn
                                      ant tunr,CW flt
   TS-940SAT   Retailer      $1450    VM,spkr,ant tunr   good condn
   TS-950S     Retailer      $2000    none               good condn
   TS-950S     Retailer      $2000    all options        new condn

RADIO SHACK

   HTX-100     Hamfest Foothl $150    none               sale in 1991, 10m
   HTX-100     Retailer       $159    none               RdoShk tent sale, 10m

SWAN

   350         Retailer       $175    PS,spkr,spr tubes  good condn

TEMPO/HENRY

   One         Hamfest NC     $140    none               fair condn
   2020        NutsVolts       $75    none               fair condn

TEN-TEC

   Century 21  OnAir          $150    None               good condn
   Century 21  Usenet         $165    None               new condn
   Corsair 1   Retailer       $595    CW flt             good condn
   Omni D      Private        $400    None               good condn
   Paragon     Private       $1650    PS,FM,CW flt       new condn
   Triton IV   YlloSht        $200    None
   Triton IV   YlloSht        $300    PS,CW flt, NL      No mic, good condn
   Triton IV   YlloSht        $300    PS,CW flt, NL,mic

UNIDEN

   HR-2600     Usenet         $160    None               Good condn, 10m

YAESU

   FT77        Private        $440    VFO                New condn
   FT101B      Private        $400    scope,PhP,spkr,FC  Good condn
   FT101E      Usenet         $350    none
   FT101EE     Retailer       $400    none               w/warranty,fair condn
   FT620B      Private        $175    none               6m,9/92
   FT-726R     Usenet         $600    2m,70cm,Sat        VHF rig
   FT-726R     Retailer       $950    6m,2m,70cm         6m+VHF rig
   FT747GX     Retailer       $550    CW flt             good w/warranty
   FT767GX     Usenet         $850    6m,2m              HF+VHF rig, good cond
   FT767GX     YelloSht      $1375    6m,2m,70cm         HF+VHF rig, good cond
   FT767GX     OnAir         $1440    6m,2m,70cm,flt,spk HF+VHF rig, good cond
   FT1000      OnAir         $2000    none               good condn

     ABBREVIATIONS

2m          Two Meter band module included
6m          Six Meter (50 MHz) band included
10m         Ten Meter (28 MHz) band only
70cm        70 Centimeter (440 MHz) band included
Amp         Linear amplifier
Bd          Board
CW flt      CW narrow filter
FC          Frequency Counter
Flt         Filter
FM          FM unit
Foothl      Foothill hamfest (California)
Lvrmr       Livermore, California
mnl         Manual
mic         Desk mic
NC          North Carolina
NL          Noise limiter
NutsVolts   Nuts and Volts Periodical
OnAir       Sold through on-the-air contact or packet
PhP         Phone Patch
PS          Power Supply
Sat         Satellite unit
Stab        Extra stable oscillator
TRW         TRW Swap Meet (Los Angeles CA)
VFO         External VFO
VM          Voice Module
YlloSht     Yellow Sheet Ham Trader Periodical


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From [e-mail]  Thu Apr 21 12:01:12 1994
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    Here is a (tentative) list of activities for Dayton.....


Thurs...  All day:  Gather at Hotel QRP Hospitality Suite **
          (Someone who arrives early please get key & start
            sign-up sheet with name, call, room #)
          7pm to 2am. - Hotel QRP Hospitality Suite officially opens.
          Reception and Introductions. Dine at hotel.
          Flea market set up time *

Fri..... Flea market opens early *
         QRP ARCI, MI-QRP, G-QRP/Kanga booths are set up and open.
         G-QRP Forum - Building and Construction - George, G3RJV
         Evening: Dine at hotel or at local restaurants.
         7pm to 2am. - Hotel QRP Hospitality Suite  activities:
         Introductions, equipment operation, and demonstrations.
         9:00 QRP-New England meeting

Sat..... Flea market opens early *
         QRP ARCI, MI-QRP, G-QRP/Kanga booths are open all day.
         G-QRP Forum - Anyone Can Do It - Paula, WB9TBU, Randy, AA2U
         7pm to 2am. - Hotel QRP Hospitality Suite  activities:
         ARCI BOD and Officers Meeting 6:45 - 7:45 p.m.,
         Beer & Pizza party 7:45 p.m.,
         Official QRP-ARCI Meeting 9 p.m.

Sun..... Flea market opens early *
         QRP ARCI, MI-QRP, G-QRP/Kanga booths are open.
         Hotel - QRP Hospitality Suite  closed.
         G-QRP Forum -  Jim, W1FMR  Doug, KI6DS,   Chuck, K5FO
         ( Secrets of QRP-NE, NorCal, and N.Tex  QRP clubs )
         Head Home - Prepare for QRP Hamvention 1995.

       * John, WA3SRE offers use of his flea market table to QRPers.

    ** (Anyone planning to arrive early on Wed. or Thurs., please
    copy this notice, post it at front desk, and in Hospitality suite
    and start a sign-up sheet with name, call, & room #  on it.)

    Thanks,

72   Jim, W1FMR



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> Donald says that his rigs are crude - ha! My transmitters are cruder:
> ...
> Any of you folks who put out newsletters want photos?

As we say on talk.bizarre,  GIF!  GIF!  GIF!

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Now that someone has noticed my slip and brought it to the net's attention -
It is time to publicly announce that is should have read " GOOD for one or
two....." - not "GOD for one or two..." My apologies to Chuck, and it is
GOOD to see him back on here - slowly recovering from the W6 trip nad
getting back up to speed with a couple of posts a day....

72/73 - Bill - N8ET


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   From: Clark Fishman (FSAC-FCD) <[e-mail]>
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   Anybody know when the Rochester, New Hamshire (not New York)
   hamfest is going to be...???? this used to be the Deerfield
   fest

   Tnx   Clark Fishman  WA2UNN


         [e-mail]

It is Friday May 6 and Saturday May 7.

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>    Anybody know when the Rochester, New Hamshire (not New York)
>    hamfest is going to be...???? this used to be the Deerfield
>    fest

And does anyone have driving directions?

John, WB7EEL

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>
> > Donald says that his rigs are crude - ha! My transmitters are cruder:
> > ...
> > Any of you folks who put out newsletters want photos?
>
> As we say on talk.bizarre,  GIF!  GIF!  GIF!
>

Yes I defie any of you to show us an uglier qrp rig gif than the ugly green
monster in wb8ygg.gif
on think.com  comon guys put up or ..... I'll be nice.
Besides, I need a new backdrop for my workstation , I'm tired of looking at my
own equipment every day.
73 Brad WB8YGG

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Jim Fitton posted the schedule for Dayton for the QRPers.

Note:  you should bring some extra QSL cards with you to
       Dayton for the purpose of putting on the outside of
       your room.  that way, people will know where you are,
       that is if you aren't in hiding.  :-)

dit dit

p.s.  doesn't seem like it's going to be next week.
Chuck Adams  K5FO  CP-60
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         Subject         Scans


I'm willing to offer a service to the QRP mailing list.

For those of you without scanners, you can mail me a print photo of
something you'd like the group to see. I will scan the photo and upload it
to an ftp server, like think.com.

You can mail photos to me at:

Steve Hideg
ERIM
PO Box 134001
Ann Arbor, MI 48113-4001

If you want the photos returned, include an SASE that is large enough and
has sufficient postage.

To save disk space, I will save them in jpeg format.

To start this off, I will be visiting the QRP Hospitality Room (once I can
get a confirmation from someone as to the location of the hotel). I will
photograph the people and the equipment there. These photos will be scanned
and uploaded shortly thereafter.

72

--Steve Hideg, N8HSC
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You want crude? Try to top this:

1. All my coils  are wound on toilet paper cardboard tubing.

2. Almost all components used in my projects come from thrown-out
   TV and radio sets that I find in dumpsters and neighborhood trash.
   The only parts I've had to buy in the last several years were
   trimmer caps from  RS (I waited until they went on sale).

QRP in it's purist form.

72.5,
Jeff NH6IL

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Jeff,

 You homebrew projects with wooden blocks and wood screws?

Wood screws? You mean to tell me that I can use screws to hold
these rigs together? Wow, what a concept! {:^)

I'll try that next project. Tell me, what other modern shortcuts
can I use?


73, (smile on face, tongue in cheek)
John
N3PFF


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> Note:  you should bring some extra QSL cards with you to
>        Dayton for the purpose of putting on the outside of
>        your room.  that way, people will know where you are,
>        that is if you aren't in hiding.  :-)
>

In spite of the smiley face at the end, there's not a snowballs chance in
hell that I'd go too far out of my way to announce myself as a ham
in that manner in a big city area.  There is crime in Dayton, and you
can bet that a theif would just LOVE to have a motel room advertised to him.

Duane


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On Thu, 21 Apr 1994, Jeffrey Herman wrote:

>
> You want crude? Try to top this:
>
> 1. All my coils  are wound on toilet paper cardboard tubing.
>
> 2. Almost all components used in my projects come from thrown-out
>    TV and radio sets that I find in dumpsters and neighborhood trash.
>    The only parts I've had to buy in the last several years were
>    trimmer caps from  RS (I waited until they went on sale).
>
> QRP in it's purist form.
>
> 72.5,
> Jeff NH6IL
>
> This article is NOT copyrighted.
>
Gee, I just have to ask, did you empty all the coil
forms yourself?

If so does that mean we are limited in how much building
we can do by how much we eat?



........................KU7Y........................
.................Monte "Ron" Stark..................
.................Sun Valley, Nevada.................



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Ron asks if I emptied all the coil forms myself. Luckily, I work at
a university with 20,000 students so I have an endless supply of
cardboard coil forms (the janitor on my floor used to have a
novice license when he was young so he understands when I ask
him to save some forms for me).

Gad, this is a great hobby! On the air without having to spend a penny.

Jeff NH6IL

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It is a tradition to put QSLs on the door of your room at Dayton.  Everyone
does it, and the doors are on the inside of the motel in a hallway.  I know,
because I was there last year, so don't be afraid to bring them.  72, Doug
My QSL will be on the door!!
72.

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> Jeffrey Herman
> Mathematics Department
> University Of Hawaii
> 2565 The Mall
> Honolulu, HI 96822
>
> Thanks so much, Andy!
>

--
Mesmerized by a decade of hate,           ! AMATEUR =   N8OFS
Flowers and remorse,                      ! ARMY MARS = AAN5HJT
Fading vision lost in time,               ! CB =        THE NEON KNIGHT
Tragedy on course!!! - Frontline Assembly ! HACKER =    TH3 N30N KN16Ht

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Hello again Jeff,

Hey, I recieved your $cash$ no problem.  I've been busy, and I haven't
been able to get to my other office to send out the xmiter UPS.  BTW,
if you want to save some money, I'll rip the power-supply out of it.
That'll save you 4 pounds, think about it.  I have a box, I have the
packing materials, I just need a moment at my other office without
being run-around-in-a-million-directions.

ABT the QSL thing, if it says "...QSL VIA N8OFS..." I'll order the
cheap cards tommorrow.  I think it would really be fun to be the
QSL manager for the _only_ 10M beacon in HI.  I also need to know
what freq your going to put it on so I can tell all my friends.

Well, got to get back to studying...  So long for now...

--
Mesmerized by a decade of hate,           ! AMATEUR =   N8OFS
Flowers and remorse,                      ! ARMY MARS = AAN5HJT
Fading vision lost in time,               ! CB =        THE NEON KNIGHT
Tragedy on course!!! - Frontline Assembly ! HACKER =    TH3 N30N KN16Ht

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I'm a registered user of versions 6, 7, and 8.  And am wondering if
there's much chance that the QRP ARCI contests might get added to list of
contests CT serves?  The exchanges are complicated enough (for example in
the Spring CW QSO party - signal report, state, QRP-ARCI# or power ---
i.e. 599 CA 6872) that they cannot be adapted easily to any other
CT format (either contest or the DXpedition)---i.e. only option seems to
be paper logs.  We are not a very big group, but a lot of us are already
using CT anyway in the CQWW, ARRL, 10/160/Field-day, All-asian,etc., and
have been for some time.  Is there a chance?

Tnx, de W6RCL


                 [<Alan Kaul>]   [e-mail]



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On Thu, 21 Apr 1994, Alan Kaul wrote:

> I'm a registered user of versions 6, 7, and 8.  And am wondering if
> there's much chance that the QRP ARCI contests might get added to list of
> contests CT serves?  The exchanges are complicated enough (for example in

As I understand it, CT version 9 can be customized for any arbitrary
contest info. I'll ask Ken, K1EA, who I assume I'll see at Dayton next week.

72/73... howie
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Hi guys, I think it would be really neat for one of the clubs like
Nor Cal or the NE club to sponsor a Ugly rig competition.


Here is a proposal.

Criteria for judging:

1. Resourcefulness.  (dumpster diving approved and encouraged.)
2. Looks (it better not look good .gif and .jpg on think.com required)
3. Performance (one contact required, must not be scheduled)
4. Re-usability, can someone else drag this out of the dumpster and
    re-use it for something.


Submissions required:
1. a paragraph that states your resourcefulness for parts aquisition.
2. A .gif or .jpg pic to think.com
3. proof of the contact.  QSL
4. proof of spousal discontent .... just kidding.

Rules could include starting the construction of the rig no earlier than
a now, and finishing by the end of the summer.. (this proves they are true
hams building during the sweaty months).

Just a suggestion, but the prize could be something on the order of a kit like
a Nor cal or a nn1g or something like that. That way we can assist these
poor individuals up the construction evolutionary chain.
I think it would inspire some competition, and it would be lots of fun!!


So clubs, what say clubs??

73
Brad WB8YGG




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Duane P Mantick <[e-mail]> said:

>Chuck Adams <[e-mail]> said:
>
>>
>> Note:  you should bring some extra QSL cards with you to
>>        Dayton for the purpose of putting on the outside of
>>        your room.  that way, people will know where you are,
>>        that is if you aren't in hiding.  :-)
>>
>
>In spite of the smiley face at the end, there's not a snowballs chance in
>hell that I'd go too far out of my way to announce myself as a ham
>in that manner in a big city area.  There is crime in Dayton, and you
>can bet that a theif would just LOVE to have a motel room advertised to him.
>
>Duane
>
>

Knowing how tight-fisted hams are, if I were a thief I'd concentrate
on rooms that didn't have QSLs on the door!

73

Jim, KR1S (Days Inn--South)




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Jeff,

 I agree with Ron KU7Y, sure glad you didn't have to empty all
those coil forms your self!

 OK, I'll stop pulling your leg for a moment.
 Did you ever consider pooling dumpster dive resources? We could
swap our good junk for someone else's good junk. We could all
benefit from this. You never know what goodies lurk in the other
guy's junkbox.

 I will that some time this weekend to search through the junk box.
If you folks are interested, I will post items for swap, trade, sell,
or whatever. I know darn well that I will not have time to start a few
"round tuit" projects I have been saving. I have also found new interests,
such as the QRP rigs, to hold my interest.

Give it some thought, let me know.
73
John
N3PFF

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> Did you ever consider pooling dumpster dive resources? We could
> swap our good junk for someone else's good junk. We could all
> benefit from this. You never know what goodies lurk in the other
> guy's junkbox.

I'm up for it; I know *my* junk box is bursting with stuff I thought was a
good idea at the time...  I'll rummage through the pile this weekend.

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 HOWIE: re attached.  When you ask, pls inquire if there's a Ken will
write a mod for Version 8 ... pls and tnx and 73, 72 de W6RCL


                 [<Alan Kaul>]   [e-mail]


On Fri, 22 Apr 1994, howie cahn wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Apr 1994, Alan Kaul wrote:
>
> > I'm a registered user of versions 6, 7, and 8.  And am wondering if
> > there's much chance that the QRP ARCI contests might get added to list of
> > contests CT serves?  The exchanges are complicated enough (for example in
>
> As I understand it, CT version 9 can be customized for any arbitrary
> contest info. I'll ask Ken, K1EA, who I assume I'll see at Dayton next week.
>
> 72/73... howie
> [e-mail]
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Jim, KR1S, writes that if any self respecting thief was in Dayton, they
would not concentrate on rooms that had QSL cards on the door.  I think
any self respecting human being is going to leave Dayton next week.  :-)

I'll be there and I'll have my QSL on the door, unless my roommate objects.
Last night I was on TV, Channel 13 here in Dallas, for six hours taking
auction bids over the phone.  Good thing that I can still write 40 wpm.  :-)
So now everybody knows what I look like in Dallas.

As I understand it, and I'm getting this second hand and I don't have
all the details, Ron M. won the K5FO Trophy for the first annual WAS
NorCal 40 contest.  Ironic that it was with the rig that I built.  I
assure you that there was no bias in this, as I was not the committee
that decided the winner.  Geographically, I predicted that it would
be someone from the East coast or Central area of the states.  If you
think about it, it is logical.

Posting on Monday on the new OHR Classic dual band xcvr.  Stay tuned
as you pack for Dayton.  The excitement grows.

Soon to be K5FO/8 Days Inn South,

Make that mobile, then /8

dit dit
Chuck Adams  K5FO  CP-60
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Gang,

anyone want to see postings from fellows/gals going to Dayton
and stuff they weren't planning to bring, but could bring if
fellow QRPer wanted to swap there?  kills two birds with one
stone.


Chuck Adams  K5FO  CP-60
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The ugly kit contest sounds like an excellent idea.
Brad, put me on your list. I'll past along the idea to
our local ARA and the new University Club.

No problem with the wife during construction time, I'll
just let her think that I'm finally doing the 'HoneyDo'
bench repair jobs. Let's see... how long can it take to repair
the old toaster? Um, "hey wife, need a 100 puff cap for the sweeper,
a power MOSFET for the stereo, gel cells for the proch lights,"...
You know, I could just be on to something here!  Try it out guys, and
give me the results. {:^)

73
John
N3PFF

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All,

Well.. finally had some time to start on the Oak Hills Classic
20/40 meter dual bander.

I usually take a project like this one stage at a time and open
the parts package for the first board.. or section.. and take out
a big piece of paper for resistors, caps, chokes, etc and seperate
and label them by part number. With this project, I took a little
different approach.. I took my plastic parts bins and seperated
the parts out by type (resistor, caps, transistors).

I just finished placing all the resistors on the Oscillator board
last night. I have vowed to really take my time on this one.. my
goal is to be able to have people look at the top OR the bottom of
the boards and be impressed. My wife does needlepoint and such,
her stuff is beautiful and keep suggesting she enter it into the
county fair.. Her comments have been the top side looks great..
but don't turn it over.. guess I want to enter this into the
County Fair (HI HI).

The boards for this rig have been done by another company
according to Dick from Oak Hills. The parts on the board are
fairly close together and Dick wanted a super clear silk screen.
In my opinion, he accomplished his goal. There was absolutely no
question as to what parts go where. I found it easier to use the
parts overlay (VERY clear) to locate the position of the parts on
the board.

The boards are works of art. Besides their clear silk screening,
they are plated through and the bottom side is coated to make it
much harder to get accidental solder bridges. The up side of this
is that if you have a good iron and take your time.. the end
product should be better quality than what you buy assemled..
really solid, pretty solder joints. The down side is that if you
put a part in the wrong place, much harder to desolder.

73

Jeff, AC4HF

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Chuck's post regarding things wanted at Dayton prompts me to query the QRP
gang. I want to "stock up" (read: I don't have any now) on things like
little toroids, enamel wire, etc. I'd like any points of view or
recommendations for sources likely to be at Dayton. I assume folks like
"Dan's Small Parts & Kits" and Oak Hills Research, etc. will be there?

BTW, my recently bought HW-8 is slowly getting better. Last night's healing
session revealed two wiring errors that imply it has *never*, *ever* been
a working rig. Hard to believe, but true... After these, my mind boggles at
what else I will find wrong. For instance, the "loading" air-variable cap was
soldered to the wrong switch lug and not connected to anything. Now at least
80m and 20m make RF. The diode in the "relative output power" meter circuit
is backwards and now that the rig makes RF the meter slams in the wrong
direction. :-)

--

       Jason F. Penn N9RPT |  Persoft, Inc.  |  [e-mail]
   Whenever I want to find something, it's always in the last place I look.

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The ugly kit contest sounds like an excellent idea.
Brad, put me on your list. I'll past along the idea to
our local ARA and the new University Club.

No problem with the wife during construction time, I'll
just let her think that I'm finally doing the 'HoneyDo'
bench repair jobs. Let's see... how long can it take to repair
the old toaster? Um, "hey wife, need a 100 puff cap for the sweeper,
a power MOSFET for the stereo, gel cells for the proch lights,"...
You know, I could just be on to something here!  Try it out guys, and
give me the results. {:^)

73
John
N3PFF

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Haven't seen this posted yet, so....

Ramsey SX-20 20 Meter SSB/CW Tranceiver

    -  DDS synthesizer tunes in 10hz steps (rotatary tunning knob)

    -  dual speed tunning rate

    -  digital display

    -  built in iambic keyer with digital spped readout

    -  2 VFO's with memory

    -  RIT with digital display

    -  dual selectable AGC

    -  instant "one touch" WWV reception

    -  10 watt RF output (adjustable for QRP operation)

    -  sealed membrane front panel

    -  includes hand mike with up/down frequency buttons


Cost:  Kit - $349.95

       Assembled w/ 1yr warrenty - $429.95


Ramsey Electronics, Inc.
793 Canning Parkway
Victor, N.Y. 14564         (its just southeast of Rochester N.Y)

phone; 716-924-4555



Disclaimer:  I don't own one of these, work for or receive any benifit from
         Ramsey Electronics.

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Subject: Re: Stocking the Junk Box at Dayton
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> BTW, my recently bought HW-8 is slowly getting better. Last night's healing
> session revealed two wiring errors that imply it has *never*, *ever* been
> a working rig. Hard to believe, but true... After these, my mind boggles at
> what else I will find wrong. For instance, the "loading" air-variable cap was
> soldered to the wrong switch lug and not connected to anything.

Heh.  It could be worse.  A while back, I bought an SB-401/SB-303 pair; I
decided to go through the Heathkit manual and perform the kit assembly checks
before powering them up, and managed to discover that in the transmitter,
the T/R relay was miswired, such that B+ was grounded.  OW!  (It may have been
an intermittent problem, since (a) the rig looked like it had gotten some use,
and (b) I think it was a coax shield causing the short.)

I eventually got it to the point where it almost worked (the transmitter
probably has a parasitic problem still, and the receiver's IF alignment
has to be off, since the CW filter's audio peak is above 2Kc (way too high
a pitch for comfortable copy... :-( )) when I lost space on the kitchen
table...  Now that I have a basement to fill with a shack, someday I'll
try again.

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I think you have a very good idea there--about swapping junk-box contents, I
mean.  What with all the swap nets on the air these days, such a network (of
whatever sort) would kind of round things out for us electronic bums.

And speaking of bums, I amusedly resent all these up-start claims to crudity.
After all, I've got a reputation to live down to here!  My stuff doesn't come
from dumpster-diving, I have to acknowledge.  Most of it comes from bargain
packs of junk from Radio Shack and other places. My vfo is a pto made from a
tv peaking coil or something--I don't know what it is really.  I put some kind
of nylon gear on the threaded stem on the coil slug.  You have to adjust the
base bias on the osc. transistor in order to get a decent keying characteristic
on the osc. output.  It's a different *kind* of crudity, but I know my superiors when I run into them.

Hope everyone has a good weekend.

Don Coleman, W1VOQ

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Jason Penn, N9RPT, stated that he thought that Dan's Small Parts
and Oak Hills Research will be at Dayton.  BZZZZTT!!  Wrong assumption.
Neither will be there.

Those of you who are experienced at Dayton please post your thoughts
and previous experiences.

1.  Kits - who was there before
2.  Parts - how is the flea market, etc. for toroids, caps, resistors, etc.
3.  Old unassembled Heathkits, like the HW-9s, 8s, 7s, etc.
4.  Old heathkits assembled and working
5.  Availability of TenTec rigs and prices

From what I've been able to determine, Heathkits are getting to be
priced out of the reasonable range.  Everybody seems to be treating
them like "wheat" pennies.  People are taking them out of circulation
to attempt to make a killing.  My personal preference is for a newer
rig with the latest design methodology applied with filtering, etc.

Bring a notebook and take notes.  Take pictures.  Take money.  Take time.
Take everything.  :-)  Inquiring minds wanna know and we know that there
is probably no single individual that'll see it all.  I figure most of
my time will be taken up by BSing with all the guys/gals that I've "met"
over the airwaves and internet.  That's OK.  If I didn't wanna I wouldn't.
:-)

WOW.  The time draws nearer and nearer.  Has anyone seen a schedule?
I know about the QRP ditty on Sunday morning.  My flight out isn't until
7pm, so there is going to be a lotta dead time in there on Sunday.

dit dit

Chuck Adams  K5FO  CP-60
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>Time for the annual shack clean out!
>
>I have a mint OHR spirit for sale.
>Nicely assembled - (if I do say so...)
>Aligned by Dick @ OHR
>Comes with built in curtis keyer.
>Will sell for best reasonable offer.
>Can bring to Dayton if intersted.
>
>thanks
>bob  KA6NOC/1
>



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Here's one answer ... someone else wrote to say that Tree Tyree's logging
program can be config-ed for various info .... I have v 4.05 but no
manual (I downloaded the public domain version from his bbs).  Has anyone
tried to configure that or earlier versions for QRP Sprints, contests or
QSO parties (which req sig reports, states and QRP #'s or POWERs)?  Other
message attached, 73 de alan w6rcl


                 [<Alan Kaul>]   [e-mail]


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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 11:06:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: howie cahn <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Adding QRP contests to CT

On Fri, 22 Apr 1994, Alan Kaul wrote:

>  HOWIE: re attached.  When you ask, pls inquire if there's a Ken will
> write a mod for Version 8 ... pls and tnx and 73, 72 de W6RCL
>
I'll ask, but based on his past policies, I don't think there's much
chance of him adding new features to a previous version. BTW, there's
an Internet mailing list for CT users (I'm not currently on it and I
don't have the subscription address with me) but it, or the CT BBS, are
good places to bring up things like this.

72/73... howie
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I seem to be getting some QRP groups items twice - anyone else ?
72
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From: [e-mail] (Doug Hendricks)
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This information is being posted to the net in response to
several requests for the information.

Here is a list of parts that are not included in the NorCal 40
partial kit now being offered by the NorCal QRP Club.  The
partial kit consists of pcboard, custom case with drilled front
and back panels, standoffs, special screws, MVAM 108 varactor
diode and instruction manual.  The partial kit sells for $25.00
postpaid.  Foreign orders are $30.00.  California residents must
add 7.75% sales tax and should include $26.94.  Send orders to:

     Jim Cates, WA6GER
     3241 Eastwood Rd.
     Sacramento, CA 95821

Make checks and money orders out to Jim Cates and not to NorCal
QRP club.

Part                          Number              Source
3 - 5 pF 10%/50V disc         21CB005             Mouser
1 - 10 pF 10%/50V disc        140-CD50S2-010J     Mouser
5 - 47 pF 10%/50V disc        21CB047             Mouser
3 - 150 pF 10%/50V disc       21CB150             Mouser
5 - 270 pF 10%/50V disc       140-CD50S2-271J     Mouser
1 - 39 pF Silver Mica 5%      232-1000-039        Mouser
2 - 330 pF Poly 5%            23PS133             Mouser
2 - 390 pF Poly 5%            23PS139             Mouser
1 - 820 pF Poly 5%            23PS182             Mouser
2 - 1200 pF Poly 5%           23PS212             Mouser
4 - .01uF Mylar/10%/100V      140-PM2A103K        Mouser
7 - .047uF Mylar/10%/100V     140-PM2A473K        Mouser
3 - .1uF Mylar/10%/100V       140-PM2A104K        Mouser
4 - 2.2uF elec. non-pol       140NPRL50V2.2       Mouser
3 - 22uF elec./25V            140-XRL25V22        Mouser
2 - 100uF elec./25V           140-XRL25V100       Mouser
1 - 2-24pF air variable       530-189-0509-5      Mouser
4 - 8-50pF mica variable      24AA024             Mouser
7 - 1N914 Diodes              1N914BPH            Digikey
1 - 1N5817 Shottky            1N5817GI            Digikey
1 - 36V/1W Zener diode        333-1N4753A         Mouser
1 - LM386                     LM386N              Digikey
1 - LM393                     LM393N              Digikey
3 - NE602N                    NE602N              Digikey
1 - 78L08                     AN78L08             Digikey
6 - 15 UH chokes              43LS155             Mouser
1 - 1 MH chole                43LS103             Mouser
4 - T37-2 Toroids             T37-2               Amidon
1 - FT37-43                   FT37-43             Amidon
1 - T68-7                     T68-7               Amidon
2 - *3.5mm stereo jack, pcm   161-3501            Mouser
1 - *BNC jack, pc mount       177-3138            Mouser
1 - *RCA jack, pc mount       161-4215            Mouser
1 - *500 ohm pc mount pot     31CW205             Mouser
1 - *10K pc mount pot         31CW401             Mouser
1 - *100K pc mount pots       31CW501             Mouser
1 - 20 ohm-1/4 watt resistor  20Q                 Digikey
1 - 100 ohm-1/4 watt resistor 100Q                Digikey
2 - 510 ohm-1/4 watt resistor 510Q                Digikey
3 - 5.1K - 1/4 watt resistor  5.1KQ               Digikey
4 - 47K - 1/4 watt resistor   47KQ                Digikey
2 - 4.7M - 1/4 watt resistor  4.7MQ               Digikey
1 - 8.2M - 1/4 watt resistor  8.2MQ               Digikey
2 - 200 ohm trimpots          531-PT10H-200       Mouser
2 - *SPDT,PCMT Rt/Angle Sw.   10TF130             Mouser
2 - 2N2222A plastic trans.    511-2N2222A         Mouser
1 - 2SC799 or MRF237 trans    2SC799              RFParts
4 - MPF102 trans.             MPF102              Digikey
1 - 2N3906                    333-KN3906          Mouser
6 - 4.915 MHz Crystals matched to +/- 20 KHz.  Buy 10 or so
surplus crystals and take the closest 4 for the filter.  Crystals
are available from Digikey and Mouser.
4 - Rubber Feet               517-SJ-5018GY       Digikey
1 - Heatsink                  33HS502             Mouser
2 - Knobs, .6"                450-2034            Mouser
1 - Knob, 1.38"               450-2039            Mouser
1 - Nylon nut, 6-32           561-G632            Mouser
1 - Nylon screw, 6-32 x .5"   561-J632.5          Mouser
1 - Fiber washer, #6          534-3233            Mouser
5 Feet #26 enamel wire                            Local
9 Feet #28 enamel wire                            Local

Note:  All items marked with a (*) should not be substituted for
as they are used to hold the front and back panels to the
pcboard.  They must be an exact match.
Hope this helps those who are wondering what kind of parts need to be scrounged
for the NorCal 40 partial kit.
72, Doug